I used ROSCOE in a couple of sites. Once you got used to it, it was better
than TSO EDIT with the same footprint.

RPF was easier to master than ISPF/PDF and it had a lot of similarities
with REXX.

I regressed back to a DOS/VSE shop for a while. A 4331 with 1 MB of memory.
We managed to run CICS with ADABAS and write all the code in PL/I. ICCF was
our only editor. It was a dog. A few years later I found myself in another
VSE shop and they had VOLLIE. Way better than ICCF.

On Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 10:42 AM Roberto Halais <[email protected]>
wrote:

> This list is becoming like Tik Tok. Enough.
>
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 8:37 PM Lance D. Jackson <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > UNSUBSCRIBE- I'm OUT!  You guys go on far too long about stories no one
> > else is interested in.  You should consider taking these drawn out
> > discussions offline.
> >
> > > On 07/09/2023 15:56 EDT Leonard D Woren <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > What was the first OS that you had a 2 MB TSO region?  What hardware.
> > >
> > > MVT TSO on the 4 MB 360/91 at UCLA was about 3/4 MB .  There was a lot
> > > you could do, although it was slow.  I did experiment with overlay
> > > modules though.  Bleah.
> > >
> > > The reason you could do a lot in 3/4 MB is that it was done in
> > > efficient languages, like Assembler.  None of these modern bloatware
> > > languages that make every app on my phone 32 MB minimum, and often up
> > > to 500 MB.
> > >
> > > /Leonard
> > >
> > >
> > > Seymour J Metz wrote on 9/7/2023 3:32 AM:
> > > > I never had TSO in less than 2 MiB; 768 KiB gives me shudders.
> > > >
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> > > > Subject: Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive - Dumps - Early
> days
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Running TSO in 3/4 of a meg was interesting.  And VERY slow.
> > > >
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