Hey Bob,

Parity bits were even, odd, or none.  Echo on or off, 1 or 2 stop bits, and the 
one you're forgetting the name thereof was the duplex, single or double.  I 
don't remember which is which, but one of them (single I think) required local 
echo so you could see what was being keyed.

Rex

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bob 
Bridges
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 5:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Kinda fun

That WAS fun!

I preceded that author by, I think, barely a year; I waffled around, changed 
majors twice (Religion, then Music, then Accounting), and reluctantly took one 
computer-programming class (PL/C) in the summer of 75.  It was NOT boring, it 
was incredibly cool and I was instantly hooked.

Punch cards didn't seem onerous to me because I hadn't yet imagined anything 
better.  I learned the technical tricks of the 029 (I don't know, there must 
have been some, no?), then learned how much better the 129 was and thought it 
was 'way cooler.  When not doing homework I sat at a teletype, taught myself 
Basic and FORTRAN, and saved my work on paper tape.  My fiancée resented the 
inordinate amount of time I spent amusing myself writing useless games and 
utilities just because I could.  I finished my degree in Accounting but went 
straight into programming jobs after graduation.  It was a long time before I 
stopped using my flowcharting template, and years more before I stopped feeling 
guilty about coding on the fly without flowcharting first.

So, yeah, I'm happy not to use punch cards now, but I didn't think to dislike 
them then.  I'm even happier not to have to plug a phone handset into a modem - 
but at the time, typing up my long, long letters electronically and sending 
them over a modem to my best friend at the other end of the country was an 
enormous improvement over sitting at my desk and writing them out with a 
fountain pen.

And while we're on the subject, anyone else remember having to establish 
communication parms over a modem?  You had to agree with the other end about 
parity bits, and about some kind of echo that I'm pretty sure we called 
"single" or "double" .... something.  Single was when my own terminal displayed 
the key I typed immediately; "dual" or "double" was when it waited until it was 
echoed back from the other end.  The lag was the downside of double; the 
advantage was that I could see what character actually made the trip across the 
chancy phone lines, and could correct errors more reliably.
What was that called?  I forget.

Oh, and the modem protocols: XMODEM, YMODEM, Kermit and the like.  I remember 
when I first got a 2400-baud modem; it transferred text so blindingly fast that 
I almost couldn't read the text as it scrolled on my screen!  For the  first 
time it might be practical to send a 100K file, if you could spare an hour or 
two!

---
Bob Bridges, [email protected], cell 336 382-7313

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