Yup, I've used V CN(*),ROUT=ALL and V CN(*),ROUT=NONE right before and right after IPLs to keep tabs on what's going on.
On Wednesday, December 13th, 2023 at 18:32, Steve Horein <steve.hor...@gmail.com> wrote: > System Automation can use SYSCONS with the Processor Operations (ProcOps) > functionality. I take advantage of that, having SYSCONS activated in PD > mode 24/7, but issue VARY CN(),ROUT=NONE on that console once the system > is fully up (the MONITOR JOBNAMES/SESS/STATUS console attribute is honored > regardless of ROUT settings) . At system shutdown time, another VARY > CN(),ROUT=(1,2,10) is issued for monitoring progress and "external" > automation when the time comes. D C,CN=<SysCons name> may show some > > undesirable routing codes or DEL attributes included in the CONSOLxx > "DEVNUM(SYSCONS)" definitions. > > https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=rc-routing-code-meaning-1 > https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=consolxx-syntax-parameters-console-statement > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 4:29 AM Peter dbajava...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Finally found the reason for this condition > > > > Our HMC operating system message(SYSCONS) were flooding with a product > > error message > > > > After resetting the SYSCONS > > > > ESQA got a relief and deactivated SYSCONS from operating system message > > console in HMC > > > > On Tue, Dec 12, 2023, 2:34 PM Peter dbajava...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > Are there any tools available in cbttape to view 78-2 ? > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 12, 2023, 2:01 PM Martin Packer martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Right. To Allan’s point it’s CSA that shows up by key. Though SQA > > > > subpools are in the 78-2. > > > > > > > > I also agree with Paul’s point that a longitudinal view can prove > > > > helpful. Even Time Of Day could be helpful. Even comparing one system to > > > > another, likewise. > > > > > > > > Cheers, Martin > > > > > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU on > > > > behalf > > > > of Paul Feller prjfeller1...@gmail.com > > > > Date: Monday, 11 December 2023 at 14:20 > > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: SQA overflow condition > > > > Peter, several people have given you some good suggestions. There are a > > > > few things you need to think about. > > > > > > > > 1) As others have said, EQSA overflow is not a bad thing as long as your > > > > ECSA is okay. At the place I last worked at we routinely saw ESQA > > > > overflow > > > > on some of our larger lpars that had lots of activity. > > > > 2) Has you ESQA always been "running" high and now it finaly has statred > > > > to overflowing? > > > > 3) If you have RMF and have SMF history data you can look back at how > > > > your CSA/SQA usage has been doing. You can use the batch reporting > > > > function of RMF. I think the manual is "z/OS Resource Measurement > > > > Facility > > > > Report Analysis" that should help you. > > > > 4) I would suggest you talk to the vendor about your question around the > > > > SVC module. > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On > > > > Behalf > > > > Of Allan Staller > > > > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2023 7:39 AM > > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > > Subject: Re: SQA overflow condition > > > > > > > > Classification: Confidential > > > > > > > > RMF will do this provided VSTOR(D) is specified in ERBRMFxx. It will > > > > show the alllocations, but not necessarily the "actual" user. > > > > E,g. VTAM, TCPIP,..... > > > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On > > > > Behalf > > > > Of Peter > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2023 10:29 PM > > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > > Subject: Re: SQA overflow condition > > > > > > > > [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you trust > > > > the sender, Don’t click links or open attachments as it may be a > > > > Phishing > > > > email, which can steal your Information and compromise your Computer.] > > > > > > > > The ESQA usage has gone to 108%. > > > > > > > > Is there any tool available in CBTTAPEA which can tell me or trace SQA > > > > users and who are not releasing the storage? > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 27, 2023, 5:37 PM Allan Staller < > > > > 00000387911dea17-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Classification: Confidential > > > > > > > > > > 100% concur w/Martin > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On > > > > > Behalf Of Martin Packer > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2023 2:39 AM > > > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > > > Subject: Re: SQA overflow condition > > > > > > > > > > [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you > > > > > trust the sender, Don’t click links or open attachments as it may be a > > > > > Phishing email, which can steal your Information and compromise your > > > > > Computer.] > > > > > > > > > > (This is not specific advice but a way of thinking about things.) > > > > > > > > > > SQA can, of course, overflow into CSA - with no real harm done. Unless > > > > > it causes CSA to go short. (CSA can't overflow into SQA, of course.) > > > > > > > > > > The above statements are true for both 24-bit and 31-bit. > > > > > > > > > > 1409K below the line, though, is pretty extreme - for 24 bit. If you > > > > > made SQA larger so that it only overflowed, say, by 100K there would > > > > > be no wasted virtual storage. > > > > > > > > > > More importantly, check out the "free CSA" picture. You really don't > > > > > want to run out of that. For 24-bit you want a few hundred K free. > > > > > (But to achieve that might require losing 1MB of 24-bit private, which > > > > > might not be consequence free.) > > > > > > > > > > For 31 bit I like to see at least 100MB free ECSA, preferably more. > > > > > The reason is because ECSA is - in my experience - more volatile. > > > > > > > > > > Speaking of volatility, you need to plan defensively - as a problem > > > > > can lead to surge in SQA and CSA usage . > > > > > > > > > > Final point: I would advocate using SMF 78-2 to build a picture of > > > > > common storage usage - and how variable it is. Here is a blog post I > > > > > wrote on the > > > > > matter: > > > > > > > > > > htt ps:// > > > > mainframeperformancetopics.com/2020/01/05/how-i-look-at-virtual-storag > > > > > > > e > > > > > > > > > > (Take out the space to follow the URL - as my mail client turned it > > > > > into an attachment.) 😕 > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Martin > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > > > > > > On 26 Nov 2023, at 05:40, Peter dbajava...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > > > > > > > I am able to see the below alert condition under RMF postprocessor > > > > > > III > > > > > > > > > > > > Name Reason Critical val. Possible cause or action > > > > > > > > > > > > *STOR TSQAO > 0 1409K bytes SQA overflow into CSA 1409K. > > > > > > > > > > > > Our SQA and CSA set up in our IEASYSxx is as below > > > > > > > > > > > > CSA=(2000,300000) > > > > > > > > > > > > SQA=(16,192) > > > > > > > > > > > > Hardware: z14 > > > > > > LPAR : 16gb memory > > > > > > zOS 2.4 > > > > > > > > > > > > Do I have think about tunning the SQA parameter ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > > > > > > IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > > Unless otherwise stated above: > > > > > > > > > > IBM United Kingdom Limited > > > > > Registered in England and Wales with number 741598 Registered office: > > > > > PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hants. 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