First sentence: What?

Second: It might. That's certainly the hobbyist's argument. IBM doesn't see
it that way, clearly.


On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Scott Ford <scott_j_f...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> You run just about any system in vbox or VMware we do, including various
> variants of Linux ..
> I understand IBM fighting hercules but ...wouldn't it also bring in more
> business like zpdt does ?
>
>
> Scott ford
> www.identityforge.com
> from my IPAD
>
> 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means'
>
>
> On May 15, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Phil Smith <p...@voltage.com> wrote:
>
> > John McKown wrote:
> >> According to IBM, you cannot get a z/OS license for a Hercules based
> >> machine. It has been asked for by many, for a hobbyist environment.
> >
> > Right. And Platform Solutions not only proved that IBM wasn't
> interested, but that IBM would aggressively fight attempts to exploit
> loopholes.
> >
> >> Another emulator is Boch. It is an x86 emulator. As I recall, one person
> >> used this to run Windows, slowly, on an old pre-z machine. It would be
> >> interesting, to me, to have somebody do this on a zEC12 running full
> speed.
> >> I don't know if Windows can be licensed on this configuration, or not.
> >
> > That's Bochs. Adam Thornton, then of Sine Nomine Associates, did this on
> an MP3000 in about 2001: Exchange under Windows under Bochs under Linux for
> System z under z/VM. "Slow" doesn't begin to describe it, but Exchange did
> (eventually!) come up.
> >
> > I believe - but IANAL - that you can run Windows legally in a virtual
> machine as long as it's a unique use of that license copy etc. So sure, why
> not? ("Is it on an Intel or AMD CPU?" "Um, IBM zEC12, actually..." - now
> THAT would be a fun conversation!)
> >
> > ...phsiii
> >
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