And, if Linux, xen and kvm become a possibility. At work, I think we use a combination of VMWare ESX, maybe vSphere (don't know for sure), and MS Hyper-v.
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Scott Ford <[email protected]> wrote: > You can run linux as a vbox or VMware host ... > > Scott ford > www.identityforge.com > from my IPAD > > 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' > > > On May 16, 2013, at 8:08 AM, zMan <[email protected]> wrote: > >> First sentence: What? >> >> Second: It might. That's certainly the hobbyist's argument. IBM doesn't see >> it that way, clearly. >> >> >> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Scott Ford <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> You run just about any system in vbox or VMware we do, including various >>> variants of Linux .. >>> I understand IBM fighting hercules but ...wouldn't it also bring in more >>> business like zpdt does ? >>> >>> >>> Scott ford >>> www.identityforge.com >>> from my IPAD >>> >>> 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' >>> >>> >>> On May 15, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Phil Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> John McKown wrote: >>>>> According to IBM, you cannot get a z/OS license for a Hercules based >>>>> machine. It has been asked for by many, for a hobbyist environment. >>>> >>>> Right. And Platform Solutions not only proved that IBM wasn't >>> interested, but that IBM would aggressively fight attempts to exploit >>> loopholes. >>>> >>>>> Another emulator is Boch. It is an x86 emulator. As I recall, one person >>>>> used this to run Windows, slowly, on an old pre-z machine. It would be >>>>> interesting, to me, to have somebody do this on a zEC12 running full >>> speed. >>>>> I don't know if Windows can be licensed on this configuration, or not. >>>> >>>> That's Bochs. Adam Thornton, then of Sine Nomine Associates, did this on >>> an MP3000 in about 2001: Exchange under Windows under Bochs under Linux for >>> System z under z/VM. "Slow" doesn't begin to describe it, but Exchange did >>> (eventually!) come up. >>>> >>>> I believe - but IANAL - that you can run Windows legally in a virtual >>> machine as long as it's a unique use of that license copy etc. So sure, why >>> not? ("Is it on an Intel or AMD CPU?" "Um, IBM zEC12, actually..." - now >>> THAT would be a fun conversation!) >>>> >>>> ...phsiii >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>>> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> >> >> >> -- >> zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it" >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. If this had been an actual emergency, do you really think we'd stick around to tell you? Maranatha! <>< John McKown ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
