I first encountered IPCS on a 2 MiB machine (165 with MVT upgraded to 168 with SVS.); the dumps were a lot smaller, so IPCS was nice rather than essential. In today's environment, I don't want to think about living without it.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Colin Paice <colinpai...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2024 8:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What is the PDS command? I remember (45 years ago, before IPCS) someone from CICS getting a paper dump from a US secret government department - with some of the sensitive data cut out of the EBCDIC translation on the right ( so it had holes in the printout). Clearly the people with scissors did not realise the data was in hex on the left hand side. On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 at 12:23, Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > Paper?! For, e.g., SYSABEND, SYSUDUMP, on SPOOL you can at least do a > search for, e.g., eyecatchers, key addresses. On paper a large dump is > unmanageable. > > When you're swamped is precisely when you need good tools. Not having > PDS86 is bad; not having IPCS is intolerable. > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי > נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf > of Edward Gould <000004bcc43af339-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2024 2:54 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: What is the PDS command? > > > On Dec 27, 2023, at 4:57 AM, David Spiegel < > 00000468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > Hi Ed, > > You and your programmer were not impressed?! > > How can you not be impressed by the ability to add Directory Blocks (by > moving members out of the way), the ability to generate JCL to LinkEdit PDS > members, the ability to copy members (with ISPF Stats) or the ability to > recover deleted members (with selection criteria)? > > (There are a lot more features.) > > SMH. > > > > (I've been using the PDS Command Processor (File 182) for more than 40 > years.) > > > > Regards, > > David > > David: > I was looking at it from a typical applications programmer POV as a every > day utility. Most of the features (I thought) were sysprog type or maybe a > senior level programmer. I1. I do not like trust programs from the CBTTAPE > as I did not want to try and debug anything that I had not written and > especially at 0 dark 30 . I was working at that time 100 hours a week and > supporting people in thee Time zones and I wanted everything to go as > smoothly as possible. The third times zone was western Europe and as > friendly as they were they would pull out the daggers every now and then. > The locals were semi (except for about 20)competentand we rarely heard a > peep out of (except for the 20). My workload at the time included going > through about 20 standalone dumps over a week and we did not have IPCS so > every dump was on paper and went from 2 foot thick to 5 foot. I had my > hands full . > Ed > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
