> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Steve Comstock
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 5:53 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK
> datasets
> 
> On 5/20/2013 9:46 AM, Thomas Berg wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-
> [email protected]]
> >> On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
> >> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 5:40 PM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for
> userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK
> >> datasets
> >>
> >> On Mon, 20 May 2013 17:25:38 +0200, Thomas Berg wrote:
> >>
> >>> As I described at the ISPF-L list, this didn't work.  And that's
> >> because ISPF uses an userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK file just for
> file
> >> tailoring into a preallocated ISPFILE ddname.
> >>>
> >>> But it worked with preallocating the ISPWRKn and/or ISPCTLn files.
> >>> (The created JCL was > 173000 lines, most of them control cards to
> >>> utilities.)
> >>>
> >> There's a real need for an enhancement to SUBMIT to accept a DDNAME
> >> as input as an alternative to a DSN.  This might even be an
> allocated
> >> POSIX pipe, eliminating the need for a preallocated work file.
> >>
> >> And its RECFM=FB, LRECL=80 restriction should be eliminated.
> >
> > What is REALLY needed is to get rid of the absurd requirement to
> specify the amount of storage to allocate for datasets!
> >
> > The system should allocate/reallocate according to what is needed in
> > the actual/immediate need for the dataset without dumping the problem
> > to the user!  (Of course limited by appropriate resource
> constraints.)
> >
> > <SARCASM>
> > But maybe it's so complicated to construct such a solution that IBM
> > needs to consult the Windows programmers ?  :E </SARCASM>
> >
> >
> 
> But Thomas, dataset space / size parameters _are_ the constraints!
> That's what they're there for.
> 
> Now, perhaps the various _default_ constraints should be larger, but
> that's what the various configuration settings and files are for, as is
> SMS.
> 
> Windows doesn't let you choose / specify the constraints.

With constraints I meant something like ACS rules.  That is: rules set 
according to the overall need for the business.  Not according to some ancient 
technical needs.

Windows make work until the disk is full.  And that is what we want!  



Regards
Thomas Berg
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Thomas Berg   Specialist   z/OS\RQM\IT Delivery   SWEDBANK AB (Publ)






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