Yeah I am going back to my initial impression.  Z/OSMF for software installs is 
garbage.

I had to go back and say DO NOT CATALOG my new ZOS31 datasets.

This then generated all my IEHPROGM jobs to rename every file allocated.

It also generated all the cleanup jobs.

But unless I rerun everything again I cant get to the WORKFLOWS, so I guess I 
will find issues on the fly.

IBM needs a way to read the CPAC.ZOS31.WORKFLOWS dataset and generate a usable 
readable workflow.

The only thing IBM seems to be missing is what are the NEW files in z/OS 3.1 
that don’t exist in z/OS 2.5, they must assume you will always generate a NEW 
Master catalog.

I have not had to do that in over 15 years, still have all my jobs, but useless 
work when upgrading software

Ms Terri E Shaffer
Senior Systems Engineer,
z/OS Support:
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z/OSMF is not in it's infancy, it's been around for several years now, it's new 
to force z/OS installs with it.  I have now installed my 22nd z/OS install with 
z/OSMF, (hundreds with Serverpak) and I can tell you that It has gone 
increasingly downhill over especially the past year or so.  The ability to 
change values (dataset sizes and other attributes) has gone from limited, to 
okay back to limited again.

It's not a "bad" way to install, but it's not as flexible as serverpak and it 
doesn't seem to get any better over time, every new install seems to take a 
small step backwards.  Sending in problem reports about the issues seems to be 
totally ignored.  Especially if you tell IBM about the problem and then also 
give them a work-around.  The attitude seems to be, "well, if you got around 
it, then why is it a problem?"

Sigh,

Brian

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