My Biggest issue, is there is NO flexibility in z/OSMF Software deployments and 
if you need to change 1 thing, it completely wipes out everything.

They have built in checks for every single dataset, so IF it thinks there is a 
duplicate it stops everything.

In my 40 years in mvs/zos it has gotten very flexible, even SERVERPAC before 
IBM cancelled it, it worked great, maybe in the first year or 2, there were 
limitations but even those had workarounds, like some dataset renames where not 
allowed. But the jobs always got created.

Here I had to go back and change 1 setting to say DO NOT CATALOG, so that 
IEHPROGM statements got built instead of IDCAMS ALTERS and they blasted my 
access to the workflows screens. Now if I try I get duplicates.  I really don’t 
want to spend another 7 hours deleting everything, just to get the upgrade 
workflows!!!!

Ms Terri E Shaffer
Senior Systems Engineer,
z/OS Support:
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If z/OSMF were an ISV product that you had to pay for, it would not sell very 
well, IMO. There would be trial installs, but very few licenses sold.

Mike Shaw
MVS/QuickRef Support Group
Chicago-Soft, Ltd.


On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 6:51 AM Shaffer, Terri < 
0000017d5f778222-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> But this is why z/OSMF is NOT ready for prime time.  In SERVERPAC I
> could go back into the dialogs and change things and still continue
> with NO ISSues.
>
> In the garbage called z/OSMF, it wipes out everything.  I lost all my
> WORKFLOW DIALOGS because I had to change the catalog setting Only!!
>
> There needs to be a WAY to create the workflow SCREENS otherwise this
> is useless!
>
> Ms Terri E Shaffer
> Senior Systems Engineer,
> z/OS Support:
> ACIWorldwide – Telecommuter
> H(412-766-2697) C(412-519-2592)
> terri.shaf...@aciworldwide.com
>
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> The problem with reporting these types of issues is that they appear
> to be completely ignored.  In my case, I have been told several times
> that since i have a workaround, there is no reason to open an issue.
> So now I just don't even bother to report them.  I just make a note for the 
> next time.
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