OK, I had never heard of this either, so I bit...

        1 //RRPBR14  JOB DDDD,TECHSUPT-RRP,MSGCLASS=X,CLASS=A,REGION=8M
        2 //STEP1  EXEC  PGM=IEFBR14
        3 //D DD DSN=MVS.RRP.JUNK,DISP=(,CATLG),
          //  UNIT=3390,SPACE=(CYL,(2,+1)),VOL=SER=WSC001,
          //  DCB=(LRECL=80,RECFM=FB,BLKSIZE=80)
 STMT NO. MESSAGE
        3 IEFC626I INCORRECT USE OF PLUS IN THE SPACE FIELD

I did find the error message interesting, as it kind of implies that there is a 
CORRECT way to use a plus sign in a SPACE parm, but a quick glance thru the 
(1.10 level) doc mentions no use of a plus sign.

Rex

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of J R
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 3:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

I think it was a pie in the sky suggestion.

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> Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 20:07:25 +0000
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets
> To: [email protected]
>
> >That way if you specified  SPACE=(CYL,(10,+5)) and got the primary and 10 
> >extents, the file size would be 285 cylinders and a primary with 15 extents 
> >would be 610 cylinders as opposed to 60 and 75 cylinders respectively.
>
> I don't remember that in any JCL doc I've ever seen.
> Where is this documented?
> Or, am I misreading this post and it only applies to DB2's allocations?
> -
> Ted MacNEIL
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> -----Original Message-----
> From:         "Blaicher, Christopher Y." <[email protected]>
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> Date:         Thu, 23 May 2013 12:21:07
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> Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets
>
> That is a concept that DB2 uses.  It can start at 1 cylinder and increase the 
> secondary by 1 on each extend.
>
> If you changed the SPACE parameter to accept:
>
> SPACE=(unit,(n,+m,...
> Where unit = TRK/CYL/etc and n=Primary allocation and +m is the initial 
> secondary amount and increment
>
> That way if you specified  SPACE=(CYL,(10,+5)) and got the primary and 10 
> extents, the file size would be 285 cylinders and a primary with 15 extents 
> would be 610 cylinders as opposed to 60 and 75 cylinders respectively.
>
> Amount per allocation - 10  5  10  15  20  25  30  35  40  45  50  55  60  65 
>  70  75
> Total allocation        10 15  25  40  60  85 115 150 190 235 285 340 400 465 
> 535 610
>
> This might be attractive for an EA enabled data set where even a 
> SPACE=(CYL,(10,+10)) gets you to about 75,030 cylinders in 123 extents.
>
> Chris Blaicher
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Tom Marchant
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:33 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets
>
> On Thu, 23 May 2013 16:44:55 +0200, Thomas Berg wrote:
>
> >The system should allocate/reallocate according to what is needed in
> >the actual/immediate need for the dataset without dumping the problem
> >to the user!  (Of course limited by appropriate resource constraints.)"
>
> For situations like that, I like to use an allocation like CYL,(1,100).
> Allocate a small primary and a much larger secondary.  Maybe also allowing 
> multiple volumes.
>
> Perhaps another useful construct would be an allocation where each secondary 
> extent was bigger than the previous.
> SMS would have a hard time with such a data set though.
>
> --
> Tom Marchant
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