Yes, pie in the sky suggestion.  Notice it said, "If you changed the SPACE 
parameter to accept."

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Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

I think it was a pie in the sky suggestion.  

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> Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 20:07:25 +0000
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK 
> datasets
> To: [email protected]
> 
> >That way if you specified  SPACE=(CYL,(10,+5)) and got the primary and 10 
> >extents, the file size would be 285 cylinders and a primary with 15 extents 
> >would be 610 cylinders as opposed to 60 and 75 cylinders respectively.
> 
> I don't remember that in any JCL doc I've ever seen.
> Where is this documented?
> Or, am I misreading this post and it only applies to DB2's allocations?
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> Ted MacNEIL
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Date:         Thu, 23 May 2013 12:21:07 
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> Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK 
> datasets
> 
> That is a concept that DB2 uses.  It can start at 1 cylinder and increase the 
> secondary by 1 on each extend.
> 
> If you changed the SPACE parameter to accept:
> 
> SPACE=(unit,(n,+m,...
> Where unit = TRK/CYL/etc and n=Primary allocation and +m is the 
> initial secondary amount and increment
> 
> That way if you specified  SPACE=(CYL,(10,+5)) and got the primary and 10 
> extents, the file size would be 285 cylinders and a primary with 15 extents 
> would be 610 cylinders as opposed to 60 and 75 cylinders respectively.
> 
> Amount per allocation - 10  5  10  15  20  25  30  35  40  45  50  55  60  65 
>  70  75
> Total allocation        10 15  25  40  60  85 115 150 190 235 285 340 400 465 
> 535 610
> 
> This might be attractive for an EA enabled data set where even a 
> SPACE=(CYL,(10,+10)) gets you to about 75,030 cylinders in 123 extents.
> 
> Chris Blaicher
> Principal Software Engineer, Software Development Syncsort 
> Incorporated
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> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Tom Marchant
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:33 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK 
> datasets
> 
> On Thu, 23 May 2013 16:44:55 +0200, Thomas Berg wrote:
> 
> >The system should allocate/reallocate according to what is needed in 
> >the actual/immediate need for the dataset without dumping the problem 
> >to the user!  (Of course limited by appropriate resource constraints.)"
> 
> For situations like that, I like to use an allocation like CYL,(1,100).
> Allocate a small primary and a much larger secondary.  Maybe also allowing 
> multiple volumes.
> 
> Perhaps another useful construct would be an allocation where each secondary 
> extent was bigger than the previous.
> SMS would have a hard time with such a data set though.
> 
> --
> Tom Marchant
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