"Can you elaborate on this? Who made the decision to require admin rights?"
Software developers using the registry to store things. Any software install on a Windows PC requires admin rights to write certain values to the registry. Linux does not suffer from these issues, nor does macOS. "Can you elaborate on this too - how did external kids get involved in administering your PC?" "Script Kiddies" is industry slang for kids who write viruses and then attempt to deploy them. Not all of them are malicious, but nevertheless they are PUPs (potentially unwated programs). "This immediate discussion mentioned proprietary terminals. If proprietary terminals (allegedly) worked better than Windows in this situation, can't we achieve the same effect by having a Windows computer with no access to the internet and no updates done - at least no automatic updates - to emulate the situation that proprietary terminals lived in?" Unfortunately, thats not possible. There will always be a need to control updates to windows. In the OT (Operational Technology) world, such as critical infrastructure, these types of PCs run on seperate networks which are segregated from the business network with firewalls and tightly controlled access lists. A very commonly used model for this is the Purdue Model. Also, everyday business requires an OT HMI PC to access the business network. We just make sure it is done thru a DMZ. An example is for electricity usage. The meters report to a PC on a private network. That PC then has to send usage every day to the main business in order to bill for usage. Joe On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 6:54 PM Paul Edwards < [email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 18:39:02 -0500, Joe Monk <[email protected]> wrote: > > >More to the point, the issue is not Windows, but the abuse of Windows. > >Example: requiring administrator rights to do ordinary, everyday tasks. > > Can you elaborate on this? Who made the decision to require > admin rights? > > >This led to "script kiddies" > > Can you elaborate on this too - how did external kids get > involved in administering your PC? > > > which caused us to be defensive on PCs, e.g. Anti-Malware. > > This immediate discussion mentioned proprietary terminals. > If proprietary terminals (allegedly) worked better than > Windows in this situation, can't we achieve the same effect > by having a Windows computer with no access to the internet > and no updates done - at least no automatic updates - to > emulate the situation that proprietary terminals lived in? > > BFN. Paul. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
