Mike,

Thanks for your thoughts.
Yes, I realise I could use such a mechanism with maybe some REXX to generate 
CCHHR values to use with DFDSS Print (rather than AMASPZAP which does not 
support extended format data sets). The CCHR values could even be found from an 
IEHLIST VTOC report. But what I really want is a simple method to display via 
ISPF (preferably) or in batch in a single step if not; i.e. a recognisable 
utility that just does what I want (yes, I know I am picky).

So far, DFDSS is the only thing that comes close, but it insists I print the 
entire data set, and so produces a *lot* of output (actually far more for 
encrypted data sets than for unencrypted data sets, as there are no repeated 
lines). 

I have a very dirty way of printing only the start of a dataset but it stinks. 
(Print to a data set of 1 track only, let it suffer a B37 and then have a 2nd 
step to copy to a spool dataset with EXEC PGM=IEBGENER,COND=EVEN).

Lennie

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Mike Shaw
Sent: 11 October 2024 19:42
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: File Manager and viewing tracks

Lennie,

The DISKMAP utility (file 792) from cbttape.org will give you a map of a
DASD volume in CCHHR sequence. You could use that map to get CCHHR values
to use with AMASPZAP.

Mike Shaw
MVS/QuickRef Support Group
Chicago-Soft, Ltd.


On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 2:15 PM Lennie Bradshaw <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Thanks for the idea, but I think that I would need to supply a CCHHR
> record for the dataset.
> Also I get,
> AMA155I IGWSPZAP DOES NOT SUPPORT EXTENDED SEQUENTIAL DATASETS
>
> Lennie
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Of Seymour J Metz
> Sent: 11 October 2024 15:18
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> Subject: Re: File Manager and viewing tracks
>
> AMASPZAP
>
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> I am looking for a standard utility program rather than writing something
> myself.
> Lennie
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> Sent: 11 October 2024 13:06
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> Did you try using EXCP?
>
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> If it uses a normal OPEN for the data set then it will see the clear text
> data. I am interested to know if there is a way to see the encrypted data.
> Seeing the encrypted form of the data provides a method to demonstrate that
> data is encrypted. The only tool I have to do this at the moment is using
> the DSS PRINT function.
>
> Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf
> Of Mike Shaw
> Sent: 10 October 2024 23:43
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: File Manager and viewing tracks
>
> Good question. We don't have any encrypted data, so I can't say for sure.
>
> Mike
>
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, 5:44 PM Lennie Bradshaw <[email protected]
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Does that show the encrypted form of the data, or does it decrypt it?
> > Lennie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Sent: 10 October 2024 20:44
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> > Subject: Re: File Manager and viewing tracks
> >
> > Radoslaw,
> >
> > I do that using the Filemanager ISPF interface.
> >
> > I choose option 5, 'Disk/VSAM', then option 1 'Disk browse', then on
> > the subsequent screen type the DSN of interest (or 'FORMAT4.DSCB' to
> > examine the VTOC), then enter the volser and type 'YES' to show
> > count/key/data. Hit enter and on the next screen in the format field
> type 'hex' or 'lhex'.
> >
> > Mike Shaw
> > MVS/QuickRef Support Group
> > Chicago-Soft, Ltd.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 3:26 PM Radoslaw Skorupka <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Is it possible to print/view "physical" volume tracks using
> FileManager?
> > > How to do it?
> > >
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> > > Lodz, Poland
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