Hi John,  Peter,

*>> Re.  I am also suspicious of Jan Vanbrabant's esclusion of homologation
from this discussion.  The word is derived from the ancient Greek verb
homologein, to approve, which becomes homologare, to agree, in fairly late
Latin.  (It has a special meaning in Scots law, where it is used to
characterize a process of removing minor defects from contracts, the
remediated versions of which are then given the force of law.)*

*> Re.   As for Jan Vanbrabant's stage names, HOMOLOGATION easily
translates to "(Internal or Product) Quality Assurance" and ACCEPTANCE to
"Client Test".  My organization uses both, though not in disparate
technical or physical environments, and always without recompilation.*
This is exactly what it means, Peter !

Jan


On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 <
[email protected]> wrote:

> The problem with recompilation is not purely technical though.  ISTM that
> there is far more bureaucracy needed to monitor and guarantee successful
> completion of full regression testing at each recompilation than there is
> payback from using notionally "better" translators and runtimes at a given
> stage.
>
> In the case where each stage from development to production may reside on
> physically and/or technically disparate systems, I admit that recompilation
> seems like a reasonable solution to ensure accurate and effective execution
> at each stage, but again ISTM that the additional verification requirements
> are far too onerous a cost both technically and bureaucratically.
>
> IMHO, of course.  We can certainly agree to disagree on this.
>
> As for Jan Vanbrabant's stage names, HOMOLOGATION easily translates to
> "(Internal or Product) Quality Assurance" and ACCEPTANCE to "Client Test".
>  My organization uses both, though not in disparate technical or physical
> environments, and always without recompilation.
>
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of John Gilmore
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> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: To recompile or not recompile, that's the question
>
> Predictably I suppose, recompilation gets my vote.  The issues
> involved are technical and not management ones, and bureaucratizing
> them never helps.
>
> Development takes some time, and linking the development version of a
> PL/I compiler to that in current production use is always a bad  idea.
>  It ensures that retrograde technology and performance will be wired
> into newly developed systems.  (This may happen anyway, of course; the
> use of the best  translator is a necessary but not a sufficient
> condition for high performance.  That use can be, often is,
> perfunctory.)
>
> I am also suspicious of Jan Vanbrabant's esclusion of homologation
> from this discussion.  The word is derived from the ancient Greek verb
> homologein, to approve, which becomes homologare, to agree, in fairly
> late Latin.  (It has a special meaning in Scots law, where it is used
> to characterize a process of removing minor defects from contracts,
> the remediated versions of which are then given the force of law.)
>
> If, as I suspect, homologation here has to do with ensuring that a
> systems meets its functional specifications, it is relevant.
>
> John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
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