On 3/26/2025 7:38 AM, Phil Smith III wrote:
https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-notable-failed-programming-tools-that-promised-to-revolutionize-software-development

Trausti Thor Johannsson's response (which is currently at the top there, but might not be 
later) includes "[Java] not only made Mainframe computers not die but made them very 
useful."

I don't think I've ever seen anyone claim that Java saved IBM Z, nor that it's 
a major use case. Yeah, it's there, but even with zIIPs and zAAPs it's not all 
THAT common, is it? Or have I just been working with the wrong sort of 
customers?

I have said *many* times that z/OS UNIX nee OS/390 USS nee MVS Open Edition saved the mainframe. Of course, by "mainframe" I meant traditional z/OS mainframe environments.

Years ago, I met Bill Schoen at an IBM TDM reception in Poughkeepsie and shook his hand so vigorously that he probably remembers it to this day. I told him that I credited him, more than any other individual in the world, with saving the mainframe. If Don Ault had been there, I would have congratulated him too. That team (I think they were in Kingston at the time) implemented a fundamentally-crucial difference in capability that has been leveraged over the years by TCP/IP, Java, z/OSMF, and many other critical components. And now Kershaw Mehta and his team, standing on the shoulders of giants, continue that great work by fundamentally improving z/OS UNIX to support native containers.

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