On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 11:26:03 -0400, Rick Troth wrote:

>[apologies ... this got long ... I count three topics]
>
>I was actually rather stunned at the time (circa 1995), /amazed/ that
>MVS could have a Unix face. Wow!
>And then they did it on VM too. (With understandable constraints because
>CMS is a DAT-off environment.)
>
Shame om IBM.  They implemented vfork on CMS Opem, but
fraudlently named it "fork".

>Wish I could answer Phil's question and get it out of the way, but I
>(still) live more on the VM side, so my knowledge of Java usage in z/OS
>land is reduced.
>
I thought (Alan Altmark said?) IBM long ado dropped Java from VM.


>But forget running "in" USS, just having access to that Unix-like
>filespace is a big boost.
>
Expanding  my previous citations:
<https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=files-naming>
    - or -
<https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9799919799/basedefs/V1_chap03.html#tag_03_264>

>    ...
>So I spun-up the shell, brought in a tarball of my favorite shell
>scripts, and ... what the heck? ... they were all garbled.
>I had not considered the OpenVM (nor OpenMVS) would be EBCDIC. (My
>scripts were all ASCII, of course.) So I shied away from it for like
>seven months. What a waste of time.
>
???
I have found that POSIX ASCII shell scripts, translated
to  EBCDIC (beware the LF<->NL tweak generally work.

-- 
gil

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