As I understand things, you'd need to replicate the AMI Cloud management
server - or simply run it  on AWS to begin with. (Or your favorite cloud
provider.) If you don't have to restore DASD, all you'd need to do is make
sure you can connect to your cloud data store and the management server
from your DR site, and you're off and running.
If you're not running backups of your DASD to AWS, then the size
requirements for the pipe drop.

I'll be sure to post our experiences here. I'm really hoping the product
works as advertised. If it does, we'll save a pile of money.


On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 7:17 PM Michael Babcock <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Not sure my last post went through so here it is again.
>
> We have a dedicated DR site that has a DS8950 DASD box where we mirror our
> production DASD to so we won’t need to FTP anything.  We are wondering how
> a dataset on tape gets restored during a DR batch cycle.   We have an AWS
> presence as well but I’m not sure what size of pipe we have.   Thanks for
> your input and I look forward to hearing more about your PoC.
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 5:03 PM Jay Maynard <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > The DR part is the part I'm most interested in, as well. The idea, they
> > tell me, is that you FTP your one-pack (or whatever) image to the DR
> > system, then IPL it, and it has the agent on it to do the restores. I'll
> > know more about how that works when I give it a try; the details seem a
> bit
> > scant.
> >
> > We're looking to save a big pile of money on the DLm and DD, since ours
> are
> > about to go out of service. I think it'll work for all that, but I'm not
> > going to hang my hat on it until we give it a try.
> >
> > We do have an institutionally large presence with AWS, and we'll be
> > using S3 for the backup storage; we have a nice fat pipe there, so
> > bandwidth shouldn't be an issue. You will need to pay attention to that,
> > though.
> >
> > I'm not expecting to be able to actually try it for another couple of
> weeks
> > at minimum, hopefully before SHARE in Cleveland. I'll post when I have
> some
> > results.
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 3:08 PM Michael Babcock <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > We’d be interested in anything you have to say about it.  We were
> pitched
> > > the product a day or two ago.     We already have DFSMSdss so shouldn’t
> > > have to worry about that part.   And we also wonder how that works with
> > DR.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 12:55 PM Jay Maynard <
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > We are doing a proof of concept for that right now, as a potential
> > > > replacement for FDRABR, DLm, and DD. We haven't actually tried it
> yet -
> > > > still getting prerequisites done, one of which is a trial license for
> > > > DFSMSdss (which IBM is being slow about) - but we expect it to
> > completely
> > > > replace the DLm and DD, as well as FDRABR. It'll also replace
> DFDSSrmm
> > > (or
> > > > CA-1). AMI Cloud Data will also replace the DLm/DD for other tape
> uses,
> > > > like, for us, Adabas backups.
> > > >
> > > > I hope to actually run some tests sometime in the next few weeks.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 9:40 AM Michael Babcock <
> > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Is anyone looking at BMC's AMI Cloud (or actively using it) to
> > replace
> > > > > Dell/EMC's DLM/DataDomains?   BMC bought Model9, now called BMC's
> AMI
> > > > > Cloud, and have been enhancing it.  Any experience or thoughts
> would
> > be
> > > > > greatly appreciated.
> > > > >
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