On Sun, 7 Sep 2025 15:58:07 -0500, Paul Gilmartin <[email protected]> wrote:

>>Multi-tasking 102: TSO and ISPF do not multi-task because people 
>>do not understand multi-tasking and would abuse it. 
>>TSO PIPEs are not acceptable because it encourages multi-tasking.
>>
>I hear the arrogance alarm.  Don't thus demean your colleagues.

I should have said "many" people. I'll assume you know how to multi-task TSO 
commands and REXX. What is your explanation why TSO and ISPF do not support 
multi-tasking? 

>>Pipes 101: The most rudimentary z/OS PIPE is batch (step 1 feeds step2 that 
>>feeds ... that feeds step #). 
>> 
>Can batch do this without using a temporary data set?

What is the problem with using UNIT=VIO or in storage VSAM? Do you think pipes 
is doing something different?

>can a downstream step take timely action on output
>from an upstream step?  This is routine design in
>CMS Pipelines.

Is there no possible z/OS alternative? Are you saying this is how the 
performance sysprog wants you to do this in z/OS?  You do this in CMS, what is 
the downside? In z/OS, does it impact CICS, IMS, DB2, MQ and more. 

>Pipelines cannot run two CMS stages concurrently.  

Which is it? You just said "timely action" which implies multi-tasking instead 
of waiting for the completion of the previous stage.

> MVS ATTACH does
>that well, with some restrictions due to the kludge of the alternate DDNAME
>list.  It should have been possible to make DDNAMEs have task scope
>optionally, instead of job scope.

That ship sailed back in the 1960's. I wouldn't want to debug DDname reuse.

>ADDRESS ATTCHMVS for compatibility.  But, ironically, that
>does not support multitasking, at which some people, contrary
>to your prejudice, are competent.

Since you understand multi-tasking, please tell us when should ADDRESS ATTCHMVS 
be used instead of ADDRESS LINKMVS.

There are several people here who easily handle multi-task. But there are 
equally as many who think they understand it. It's not prejudice when the 
answers require an understanding the entire audience.

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