Reading Andrew's reply I'd like to point out that when I was selecting software products the availability of having a SMPe install and maintenance process weighed heavily in the choices I made as it meant much better controlled (and documentable) maintenance processes. The fact that IBM now delivers pre built SMPe doesn't change the fact that after install maintenance is back to Apply/Accept and pre-reqs/co-reqs.
Jerry Whitteridge Sr Manager Managed Services Tech Operations & Innovation [email protected] 480 578 7889 -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andrew Rowley Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2025 3:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: EXTERNAL Email: Re: Variables in SMP/E JCLIN records? On 20/11/2025 7:46 am, Phil Smith III wrote: > I see no ddname there? The point is that there are hundreds of routines in > those libraries, so we want it to resolve automatically, not require a > zillion INCLUDE statements. Plus the entry point names are largely > 8 bytes, > which is why it's in USS: we used to do a horrible hack where we'd just copy > all the object decks into one huge MVS member and INCLUDE that, but that > makes the executable bigger, with everything from the library included > whether it's used or not. This is code shared on various platforms, so > there's lots of unused stuff. Does the install even need to be SMP/E? Would e.g. a non-SMP/E portable software instance be easier for both you and your customers? Build on your systems and deliver the results. Even IBM has moved away from customers doing SMP/E installations. They deliver pre-built SMP/E environments. If you don't need SMP/E for maintenance, it might be more trouble than it's worth. -- Andrew Rowley Black Hill Software ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ________________________________ Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. This e-mail may contain proprietary information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. ________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
