ObGungaDin I could write at length about what is wrong with SMP, but I lived 
through the days before it existed, and I would never go back to them. I've 
also had to deal with modern alternatives. It may be a crooked game, but it's 
the only game in town.

-- 
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of 
Andrew Rowley <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2025 5:10 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Variables in SMP/E JCLIN records?


External Message: Use Caution


On 20/11/2025 7:46 am, Phil Smith III wrote:
> I see no ddname there? The point is that there are hundreds of routines in 
> those libraries, so we want it to resolve automatically, not require a 
> zillion INCLUDE statements. Plus the entry point names are largely > 8 bytes, 
> which is why it's in USS: we used to do a horrible hack where we'd just copy 
> all the object decks into one huge MVS member and INCLUDE that, but that 
> makes the executable bigger, with everything from the library included 
> whether it's used or not. This is code shared on various platforms, so 
> there's lots of unused stuff.

Does the install even need to be SMP/E? Would e.g. a non-SMP/E portable
software instance be easier for both you and your customers? Build on
your systems and deliver the results.

Even IBM has moved away from customers doing SMP/E installations. They
deliver pre-built SMP/E environments. If you don't need SMP/E for
maintenance, it might be more trouble than it's worth.

--
Andrew Rowley
Black Hill Software

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