Huh, ok. Never saw that

On June 18, 2026 11:06:18 PM Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote:

My point is that the 3270DS supported ASCII  from day one.

IBM 3270
Information Display System
Data Stream Systems Programmer's Reference

also mentions both encodings.

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Not sure what your point is. The displayable data in a 3270 data stream, as
sent to a 3270 device, is not ASCII as far as I've ever seen. Of course a
controller might rework it as an emulation thing, but I don't think any
3270s spoke ASCII, did they?

On June 18, 2026 10:33:44 PM Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote:

"Data, commands, and orders transmitted between the control unit and the
host system
are in the form of interface codes. Two different codes are used in the
United States:
extended binary-coded decimal interchange code (EBCDIC) and American National
Standard Code for Information Interchange (ASCII). The EBCDIC codes are
also used
in the World Trade countries (ASCII is available only in the U.S.); refer
to IBM 3270
Information Display System: Character Set Reference, GA27-2837, for details. "


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Ehhhhh...the 3270DS itself still isn't doing ASCII, I don't think.

On June 18, 2026 9:36:18 PM Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote:

That depends on the 3271 model.


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On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 22:30:08 +0000, Seymour J Metz wrote:

My TSMBIRD was ASCII art on a 3277; is your ILRBIRD fancier?

ASCII ?  3277?
It's easier to believe EBCDIC character cell.
Or do 3277 data streams support ASCII?

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