Also was there at the time of computerized photo type setting using a Lineatron 1010 as a front end. Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 20, 2026, at 23:10, Phil Smith III <[email protected]> wrote: > > Psychic? Psychiatric? > >> On June 20, 2026 10:20:41 PM Howard Rifkind >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> It’s been a very long time in the mists of my memory that someone mentioned >> cp/67 cms. I think it ran on a 360/40 at New York Psychic Center. >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Jun 20, 2026, at 07:37, Jay Maynard >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> CP/67 won't run on a 370. The virtual memory implementation is different >>> enough to keep it from running. I don't know if CP/67's CMS will run on a >>> bare 370, though it will run under VM/370, so maybe... >>> >>> If it'll run on a bare 370, it should run on a P/370. >>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2026 at 10:14 PM Farley, Peter < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Just out of pure curiosity, I wonder if there are any surviving copies of >>>> that “bare metal” CMS system and its documentation outside of IBM deep >>>> archives (i.e., gathering dust at Iron Mountain). >>>> >>>> It would be interesting to bring it up under S/370 emulation or on a >>>> surviving P370 system if anyone has one that’s still operational, just to >>>> see it work, but probably also somewhat frustrating without the supporting >>>> documentation. >>>> >>>> Peter >>>> >>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf >>>> Of Mark S Waterbury >>>> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2026 10:39 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: GC20-1757 - IBM Virtual Machine Facility/370 Features >>>> Supplement >>>> >>>> >>>> The original "CMS" (Cambridge Monitor System) of CP-67 could run on a >>>> "bare" machine, and this was used to do the initial "SYSGEN" of CP-67, e.g. >>>> to specify the I/O configuration etc. to install CP-67 on an IBM S/360 >>>> model 67. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> By the time VM/370 became available in late 1972 or early 1973, the VM >>>> version of "CMS" (Conversational Monitor System) could no longer run on any >>>> "bare" machine as it relied on a number of CP services provided via the >>>> DIAGnose instruction (aka. the "hypervisor call" in today's lingo.) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the >>>> addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. >>>> If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized >>>> representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any >>>> dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have >>>> received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by >>>> e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>>> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jay Maynard >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
