On 5/07/2013 4:17 PM, Martin Packer wrote:
Might be a silly question but do we have to use THEIR build system? In its
entirety?
No. But it's a lot of work if you don't. Most portable software comes
with a configure script that builds a makefile with the correct
configuration for your system.
That may vary between different versions of z/OS depending on what is
available in the C/C++ runtime. For a big port like OOREXX I just couldn't
be bothered to expend that much energy. It can be done but would need
investment and capable people to do it. I'm not that interested any more
because
there are easier options. If I wanted a language that only runs in USS I
would look at JVM languages like Scala, Closure, Groovy. To get OOREXX
to load modules
from a PDS is non-trivial and to integrate it into TSO/ISPF is very
difficult. And after all we're talking about scripting languages which
are easy to learn.
I would rather learn a new language. But I'm probably in the minority there.
Cheers, Martin
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From: David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com>
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Date: 07/05/2013 08:06 AM
Subject: Re: What programmer's fear (not IBM specific)
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On 5/07/2013 2:56 PM, Martin Packer wrote:
If that's true in Another World I wonder what it'd take to make it true
in
THIS one.
For a start somebody to port OOREXX to z/OS.
That's not going to happen until somebody first ports a recent version
of GNU autotools.
That's not going to happen until at least z/OS 2.10 when the new GNU
extended streams API is available.
We may be waiting a while...
The EBCDIC stuff in OOREXX is mostly complete. I did that years ago. I
bailed when it became clear that fixing the build system
was an intractable problem.
Cheers, Martin
Martin Packer,
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From: "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" <shmuel+...@patriot.net>
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Date: 07/05/2013 12:25 AM
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In
<b870629719727b4ba82a6c06a31c291239e0fad...@hqmailsvr01.voltage.com>,
on 07/04/2013
at 05:54 AM, Phil Smith <p...@voltage.com> said:
In an alternate universe, Rexx had the equivalent of CPAN created by
the community, and we all use it instead...and are much happier.
In an alternate universe the standard REXX for CMS and TSO is OREXX
with full block structuring, ranges, regexen and some control
structures stolen from Icon and Perl.
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