Or the other way round: the users can get all the spoolspace they want, when 
they pay it. Only the sun rises for free, as we say here.

Kees.

-----Original Message-----
From: Vernooij, CP - SPLXM 
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 14:56
To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
Subject: RE: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool

If you must manage with limited resources and you explain the user where to 
leave the large reports and you have management commitment for these new rules, 
I consider myself entitled to enforce the rules. In the end both the I and the 
user benefit from it.

Kees.

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Ted MacNEIL
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 14:45
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool

Cancelling a job due to lines exceeded is, generally, bad practice.
Who are you to determine the needs of the user (whom you are [supposedly] 
supporting).

I know there is the potential of a looping job; that doesn't sound like the 
case, here.


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Ted MacNEIL
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-----Original Message-----
From:         "Vernooij, CP - SPLXM" <kees.verno...@klm.com>
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Date:         Thu, 5 Sep 2013 09:36:50 
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Subject: Re: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER  tool

What is the problem: 
Hundreds of jobs in the input Q? That does not cost much, add some jobnumbers 
and trackgroups.
The output of the jobs? If they produce large reports, force them to write 
those to disk datasets and use SMF exits to add /*JOBPARM LINES= to the job and 
automatically cancel those jobs exceeding the threshold. Or you can write your 
own external writer, to move data to disk.

Kees.


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Of Miklos Szigetvari
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 08:57
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Subject: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool

Hi

I have the problem, some of our users, submits,  time to time several hundred 
tests jobs, for different application tests.
It fills the spool, difficult to handle etc etc .
I would need some simple tool to manage this:
- submit again and again , only a a limited number of jobs.
- if a job is ready,  write out the outputs to some dataset.
- maybe check the return codes.

Before starts to write, maybe someone has a good idea about this.

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