On 9/30/2013 5:27 PM, John McKown wrote:
teach them to be good programmers.  They can and usually do write
opaque, turgid routines in both.
Yes, the old "You can write FORTRAN in any language".

When I first migrated to OS/360 from the 7094, I wrote a small flowcharting program (manual assignment of position and connectors) in ASM F. For curiosity's sake I also wrote it in ForTran, then PL/I. The ASM version required about 8K, the Fortran version 20K, and PL/I closer to 80K, with proportinal CPU times. Shmuel said that just shows that I couldn't write PL/I programs - in hindsight he was probably right, but the early versions of PL/I were atrocious; e.g., changing a bit flag resulted in a subroutine call rather than one or two instructions in-line.

Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, Vermont

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