Ah, my bad, I didn't realize this was not for an in-house type project.

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Robin Atwood <abend...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ingenious and it would be technically fascinating to try and implement!
> However I imagine it would be a bit of a hard sell to the customers. :)
>
> Thanks
> Robin
>
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> Subject: Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp
>
> One possibility, which is not simply by any means, is to use the SMF data
> in
> "real time", with the SMF IEFU8x exits, to trap the SMF type 15 records
> (non-VSAM open for OUTPUT or UPDAT) and type 62 (VSAM cluster opened). With
> the type 62, you need to test SMF62MC1 to see if the open is for
> output/update. This can be done using CA-7 (if you have it). We use it to
> trigger jobs when a file is created / updated via something like ftp from a
> Windows server. Another possibility is to create a discrete RACF profile
> for
> the dataset(s) you are concerned about and AUDIT them. This will produce a
> RACF SMF record. Which you could trap using the SMF IEFU8x exits, or simply
> process sometime later, say when you dump the individual SMF data sets, if
> you don't need "real time". Oh, the same for the type 15 & 62 records too,
> I
> guess.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Robin Atwood <abend...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > So both you and Lizette are saying that even I can obtain it, the
> > available timestamp is not very useful. We need to synchronise the
> > mainframe data set with its workstation copy and currently use hashes
> > of each file to see if they are different. This is CPU intensive and I
> > had hoped to avoid it by comparing the last write dates. It looks like
> > my scheme won't work in this case (it works fine for libraries of members
> like PDSs and Endevor). Hmm.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Robin
> >
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> > On Behalf Of retired mainframer
> > Sent: 22 November 2013 00:54
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> > Subject: Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp
> >
> > For a non-VSAM dataset, the last reference date in the F1 DSCB does
> > not mean the dataset was changed on that date, only that it was opened
> > (and closed?), even if only for input.
> >
> > :>: -----Original Message-----
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> > :>: Behalf Of Robin Atwood
> > :>: Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:48 AM
> > :>: To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > :>: Subject: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp
> > :>:
> > :>: I want our file server to be able to tell the clients when a data
> > set
> > :>: last
> > :>: changed. For non-VSAM it's easy (if a bit vague), there's the last
> > :>: reference
> > :>: date in the F1 DSCB.
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> hunchbacks.
>
> Maranatha! <><
> John McKown
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This is clearly another case of too many mad scientists, and not enough
hunchbacks.

Maranatha! <><
John McKown

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