Use NOPURGE in the global zone options member to not delete the PTFs when they 
are accepted (if that's what is desired).  A cross zone query can be done to 
see if a resolving PTF for an APAR has been applied.  Just replace the first 
character of the APAR number with an 'A'.    In your example PMxxxxx would 
become AMxxxxx.  If a superseding PTF has been replied it will show SUP.

Bill Skeldum


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Chris Hoelscher
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 8:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?

I NEVER accept PTFS - but for an entirely different reason

I like to build meaningful reports as to what has been applied - when applied, 
the corresponding APAR#, a description, is it hiper? The RSU to which it 
belongs, and the owning product affected by the PTF

To build this report - I run a LISTMCS to create a ptf/apar xref - BUT 
ACCEPTING the ptf removes entry from the MCS (when I ACCEPTED the FMIDs at 
instell time, I first captured the apar/ptf xref for the ptfs that were bundled 
with the install - otherwise - after our semi-annual RSU apply (we are limited 
in how often we can apply proactive maint) - I run my report - but ACCEPTING 
PTFS would limit the effectiveness of my report - I am amazed how often I get a 
call - do we have PMxxxxx installed? To save a trip the IBM website - the xref 
comes in handy


Chris hoelscher
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Joel C. Ewing
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 10:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?

I can't recall ever seeing such an ACCEPT recommendation from IBM, probably 
because your own installation maintenance practices play such a major role here.

The only reason for not ACCEPTing PTFs (USERMODS and APAR fixes should 
typically never be accepted) is because you might need to RESTORE a PTF; but if 
you have been successfully running with a PTF installed for months, it is 
highly unlikely you would ever need to RESTORE it, and even if some subsequent 
error HOLD was placed on the PTF, if it is not an issue that has caused 
problems in your environment it is just as likely that a resolving PTF will 
become available allowing you to go forward in maintenance rather than having 
to back out the PTF.  I have even had a few rare cases where I have bypassed an 
ERROR HOLD to force an ACCEPT of a PTF and "clean up" a zone when the nature of 
the error HOLD was such that it would clearly never be an issue for us.

The most likely point at which you might actually need to do a RESTORE would be 
shortly after another mass APPLY of PTF's (not just any "next APPLY").  Failure 
to ACCEPT previous mass maintenance for PTFs already running in production 
sometime before doing the next mass APPLY means any RESTORE after that point is 
likely to also force a back out of PTFs with which you have been successfully 
running for months.  I would expect this to add unnecessary risk by placing 
your system in configurations further at variance from those with which IBM and 
others (including your own installation) have done rigorous RSU-level testing.
        Joel C. Ewing

On 11/22/2013 05:30 PM, Mike Schwab wrote:
> How about not until IBM tells you to?  As in "you must accept xxxx
> before apply this PTF"?
>
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Staller, Allan <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> IMO, the short answer is just before the next APPLY.
>>
>> HTH,
>>



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Joel C. Ewing,    Bentonville, AR       [email protected]

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