On 1/20/14, John Gilmore <[email protected]> wrote:
> Phil thinks I misunderstood/misrepresented him.
>
> His statement
>
> <begin extract>
> But in the real world, such assumptions often don't apply, and so even
> relatively weak crypto can be de facto quite secure.
> </end extract>
>
> immediately following the one about DES that I quoted earlier suggests
> otherwise to me.   I am delighted that he does not in fact judge DES
> effective.
>
> I reacted to his comments as I did because their "realist" flavor
> troubled me.  On-line systems are in crisis; and this crisis---It was
> wholly predictable and was indeed predicted---is an outgrowth of a
> pervasive notion that the manifestly inadequate is enough.
>
> Two major retail chains have now lost the confidence of their most
> valuable customers, and they will not be the last organizations to
> find themselves in this situation.    In these circumstances it seems
> to me that we have had enough expressions of what seems to me to be
> crackpot realism about security and encryption.
>
> None of this, of course, is intended to suggest that Phil is not
> entitled to have and express his own, very different views.
>
> --
> John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
>


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John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

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