John,

Things were different then.

Years ago we had a program where new hires, programmers, sysprogs, etc spent a week in ops and a week in production control. It lasted about a half dozen hires then was tabled.


Text of the 4th Ammendment to the U.S. Constitution.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. -----Original Message----- From: John McKown
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 9:48 AM Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
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Hum, I would have failed to get my first job. I came out of college
directly into systems. I as applying for a programming job. I had
apparently talked myself out of a number of them. At the place that hired
me, I could see the programming managers eyes glazing over, again. He told
me to wait a bit. The system programming manager then came in to talk to
me. I got the job because I knew s/370 assembler and OS JCL ( this was back
in the OS/VS1 days). Turns out the programming manager went to the systems
manager and said (paraphrasing) "You might want to talk to my applicant. I
don't understand a damn word he's saying!"


Of course, my first two weeks at that job was in the computer room,
mounting tapes on 3420 drives and tearing paper off of the 1403N1 printer.
Just so I'd know what problems I could cause if I messed up my JCL and
didn't retain tape volumes or produced too many different reports that had
to be separated.


On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Ken Hume IBM <kph...@live.com> wrote:

Requirement #1. Applicant must have z/OS operations experience.




Text of the 4th Ammendment to the U.S. Constitution.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and
effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated,
and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or
affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the
persons or things to be seized.
-----Original Message----- From: Ward, Mike S
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 9:28 AM Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
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Subject: OT: Entry Level System Programmer Job Description


Hello all, Would any of you have an entry level systems programmer(or
whatever they call them now) job description that you would be willing to
share?

I'm trying not to reinvent the wheel.

Thanks

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everything and the Wirth of nothing?

Maranatha! <><
John McKown

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