Sometimes it not simple, especially if you can't provide an API to makes calls
Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD > On May 8, 2014, at 8:40 PM, zMan <[email protected]> wrote: > > Also +1 what Mark said. I've known of only a few cases (not that I claim > encyclopedic knowledge, but I mean "across a dozen or so vendors and thus a > few thousand mainframe customers") where vendors were forced to give up > source code to specific customers. In most cases, the only thing vendors > are willing to offer is escrow. > > >> On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 8:36 PM, zMan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> What Charles said. In spades. I knew a vendor who had a product that they >> kept writing binary patches for, because while they had the source code, >> they'd lost the build process (knowledge departed with a developer). And >> before anyone blames the vendor, it was a minor product and the loss >> occurred before they bought the product line from another company. >> >> Rumor had it that Paint was rewritten for Windows 95 because Microsoft >> lost the source. While there's no real evidence of that as far as I can >> tell, anyone who's worked for a vendor believes it's at least possible. >> >> Still, any real vendor does do escrow, and it's not something I'd forego. >> At the very least, it shows some level of alleged rigor. And if the company >> goes bust, you might be able to hire their developers. It's insurance: >> after all, your insurance company could go bust, too, eh? >> >> >> On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Mark Post <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>> On 5/8/2014 at 06:50 PM, Scott Ford <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> huh, does IBM permit you to buy source or CA ????? >>> >>> Source code escrow is not at all the same as buying the source code from >>> a vendor. I would be willing to bet that at least some of IBM's and CA's >>> larger customers have some source code in escrow. Think governments and >>> the like. "We won't license this product or any of your other products >>> unless you agree to put the source code for this particular package in >>> escrow." >>> >>> >>> Mark Post >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it" >> > > > > -- > zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it" > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
