Radoslaw, I do order my serverpac as a internet download, and for my mix of products, ends up needing about a 50G HFS. I do have a connection from my sandbox system to do the downloads directly. Not unreasonable, but it is a lot of space. As for the doc, I *hate* the fact that I am forced to take the additional materials as a download too. I usually re-order serverpack on physical media a second time, just so that I get all the supporting materials on physical CD/DVD/Paper. I will not download all of those and put them somewhere to make them available for my team.
_________________________________________________________________ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering [email protected] 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 7:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: TS1150 and software installation As I wrote previously, DVD is more like Internet delivery. You cannot directly read data from DVD - I'm talking about ServerPac, because for z/VM installation process DVD is perfectly ok. In fact I have never orderded anything *from IBM* on DVD, but I assume the first step is upload DVD content to HFS. That means you require a lot of HFS space, then a lot of space for unzip and RECEIVE processes. Compare it to tape: you receive small PDS from tape then submit single job, which reads all the data from the tape. For CBPDO you get relfiles, for ServerPac you get DLIBs and TGTs. Much less space, much less potential problems to diagnose. Last, but not least: when you order physical media, you get a box(es) with few manuals and a lot of CDs and DVDs. If you want to download it you have to assign many gigabytes of PC storage of ISO images, and (more important) you consume a lot of Internet connection bandwidth. (of course this is for Internet delivery, not for DVD as replacement for tape media). Regards -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2014-10-30 o 09:31, Timothy Sipples pisze: > Assuming the installation procedures are as desired/requested, is there any > problem with DVD media when/as physical media distribution is required? > They're pretty large for software distribution purposes -- over 4 GB each > at least before compression. Certainly large enough to get started up and > then (if desired) get attached to storage and/or network -- including your > software product repository. > > DVD is the only common, universal media type for mainframes, isn't it? With > a DVD path I know I'll always have an execution path, even if I'm at an > unexpected and "alien" DR site. With tape I've then got to worry about > whether it's Type X Vendor Y tape, and that's assuming there's even a tape > drive at all (not a given). > > I'm certainly not opposed to anyone who wants to use a particular type of > tape for their own media distribution needs. But isn't DVD what IBM and > other mainframe software vendors ought to be using on those occasions when > they're shipping something physical. Also bearing in mind that'd it'd at > least be helpful if all the vendors could agree on one media, and they're > unlikely to agree on anything except the universal format. 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