Ye all,

goes to show that all "exposures" are dangerous. 

Never wear a mini skirt in winter. Especially this winter (IBM is dead) of
discontent.

Batten yer hatches and be happy that in years of yore things were good.


All the best - and batten yer bleedin hatches again.


Andre




=> Do I know about a violation of the statement of integrity that IBM has not
=> addressed? No, of course not.
=> 
=> I am not certain that "MVS exposures" versus "lax security" is a black and
=> white dichotomy. It's easy to look after the fact at any breach and say
=> "aha! You should not have done X." I don't think the role of we security
=> practitioners is solely pointing out "exposures" in MVS to IBM. I think
=> helping customers with common less-than-ideal practices is more important.
=> 
=> Logica was a professional service bureau with a professionally-maintained

En réponse à Charles Mills <[email protected]> :
> ------------------ Début du message d'origine --------------------
> 
> Do I know about a violation of the statement of integrity that
> IBM has not
> addressed? No, of course not.
> 
> I am not certain that "MVS exposures" versus "lax security" is
> a black and
> white dichotomy. It's easy to look after the fact at any
> breach and say
> "aha! You should not have done X." I don't think the role of
> we security
> practitioners is solely pointing out "exposures" in MVS to
> IBM. I think
> helping customers with common less-than-ideal practices is
> more important.
> 
> Logica was a professional service bureau with a
> professionally-maintained
> z/OS. They got breached. One might infer that other MVS sites,
> and not just
> those with "lax" (however defined) security practices, might
> also be
> vulnerable.
> 
> Charles
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 12:31 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Young's Black Hat 2013 talk - was mainframe
> tribute song
> 
> In <[email protected]>, on 01/09/2015
>    at 04:35 PM, Charles Mills <[email protected]> said:
> 
> >A stitch in time saves nine.
> 
> Whoosh!
> 
> Let me rephrase that in simple terms. Have there been any
> successful
> cracking attempts in the wild against real, present-day
> mainframes that
> exploited MVS exposures rather than lax security practices?
> 
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