Why do *I* have to correct for it, Gil?  Isn't someone else being paid to do 
that?

(I just could resist... my initials are GPS  :-)
Greg

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: O/T Strontium atomic clock accurate to the second -- 
over 15 billion years --

On Thu, 30 Apr 2015 08:52:09 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote:

>On Thu, 30 Apr 2015 06:31:09 +0000, Vernooij, CP wrote:
>
>>They can claim anything, who is gonna check this and where can I 
>>complain after 15b years if my clock appears to be not that accurate 
>>then?
>
>Why shouldn't it be that accurate? After all, a second is currently 
>defined in terms of atomic clocks.
> 
In fact, an average of several, geographically separated for fault tolerance.

There's a fine metaphysical question here.  The meaning of any physical 
quantity depends on specifying a process for measuring it.  If you define time 
as that which is measured by a sundial, the atomic clock is inferior; at best 
it measures something else.

But computing an average implies that one can compute a variance and conclude 
that pendulum clocks agree with other better than sundials, so we changed our 
notion of time from the sundial convention to pendulums, and subsequently to 
atomic clocks, accepting the nuisance of leap seconds.

On Thu, 30 Apr 2015 09:32:05 -0400, Schmeelk, Gregory P.  wrote:

>Um, have the taken into account the Einsteinium time dilation that will occur 
>as the Andromeda galaxy merges with ours?
>
>I'm just saying :-)
> 
But it matters, and it's old stuff:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafele%E2%80%93Keating_experiment

GPS must correct for it.

-- gil

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