William Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2015-07-22, glen herrmannsfeldt <[email protected]> wrote:
> William Jones <[email protected]> wrote:

(snip, I wrote)
>>> I am hoping to run Wylbur, Milten, and Orvyl,
>>> but TSO or VM/CMS are also possibilities.

>> Is Wylbur or SuperWylbur available? I saw discussion on this years ago
>> from Gerhard when he mentioned he was working on it but then nothing.

Wylbur originated at Stanford, then to NIH, then to some other
places, including SLAC. Later, SLAC ran the later versions
of Stanford Wylbur/370 and Orvyl/370.

I believe SuperWylbur is a commercial product, derived from one
of the others.

(snip)
>> Yes, Stanford Wylbur and Orvyl (and all the rest) are available
>> as open source on the Stanford web site.

> I used SuperWylbur in the 1970s but did not realize it came from 
> Stanford or perhaps I simply forgot. I thought it was 
> a proprietary product. This is very good news. I wonder if 
> Gerhard is aware of it. I follow most of the IBM lists but 
> very seldom post. I believe his comments about this were on one 
> of the Hercules lists a few years ago.

>> Also, I believe Stanford moved away from the Susan SVC for communication
>> between the subsystems, but that might be needed again for MVS3.8.

> I am not familiar with that but thanks for noting it. If I try to get this
> going I'll have to look it up. If the source isn't available it should be
> possible to reconstruct the SVC as long as the specs are available 
> somewhere.

I believe the source is there, just put all the parts together.

>> Also, the job submission, hold, fetch, and release might be JES
>> dependent in some way.  For submission, I presume just write to
>> an internal reader. The rest require closer interaction with JES.

> Yes. My recollection is so hazy to the point I remember little aside from
> the name and the fact it allowed us to use terminals to edit and submit jobs
> before ISPF was available. But more than that I cannot recall. I suspect you
> would be right about the JES or possibly HASP interface. Yet, I believe it
> was running on something very close to the 3.8J system so perhaps it will
> just work.

SLAC had Wylbur running with ASP, which became JES3. 
I believe the Stanford campus ran with HASP and/or JES2.

I don't know at all how that works, but hopefully the code is
there and the manuals are available.

-- glen

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