Sounds like your only option is to use DFDSS, and to do it safely, will require 
you to take a more traditional approach, and consider doing logical dataset 
moves from the old to the new dasd.   Of course that will mean ceasing use of 
the affected data for time that the data is moving.  Maybe a DFDSS job like 
this:

COPY DS(INC(a.dataset.mask.**)) -               
IDY(inputvol) ODY(outputvol) -                    
ALLDATA(*) -                                 
SPHERE -                                     
DELETE -                                     
ALLX -                                       
CATALOG -                                    
PURGE                                        

Then your next trick will be to migrate off datasets/volumes that enqueues 
cannot be freed easily.   Another approach you could take if you have multiple 
systems that do not share data, but have access to each others DASD could be to 
Shutdown system "A", and use system "B" to do full volume copies, but that then 
implies that you will have to do something about catalogs, or keep volsers the 
same.

Just some idea's.  Not meant to be a complete plan.
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Dazzo, Matt
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's

We are facing the need to migrate off 3390-3, and probably some 3390-9 to 
mod-27's, so I am seeking the best process to take. This is a new endeavor for 
me so I am learning and looking for the best method of course with our current 
tools on hand,  We do not have TDMF or FDR just DFDSS, hsm is not used either.  
Any direction or comments is appreciated. 

Our DB2 data is sms managed but for all other data we use BMC Mainview SRM, 
does SRM provide any tools?

Thanks Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Mike Schwab
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 3:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Using IBM z/OS TDMF Product to Migrate 3390-9 to 3390-27's

Yes, you can use TDMF / FDRPAS / etc, to move a volume to the same size or 
larger.  After the move is complete TDMF or you run ICKDSF to pick up the new 
size.

The VTOC and VTOCIX are not extended.  You should select the volumes with the 
hardest to move datasets.  If you need to increase the VTOC / VTOCIX, you can 
do that right after you get the new size.  Or you can create new volumes and 
migrate the datasets from all old volumes.

Remaining volumes will need to have the datasets moved to volumes on your new 
hardware.

https://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieag100/v1stor.htm
VARY SMS,VOLUME(volser,sysx),QUIESCE or (V SMS,VOLUME(volser,sysx),Q) will 
disable allocations to old volumes, unless it does not have enough space on 
non-Quiesce volumes.

https://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.arcf000/migratesmsvolume.htm?lang=en
After setting volser to Q, command MIGRATE VOLUME(volser) DAYS(0) will migrate 
datasets to other volumes in the storage group.  Datasets in use or not 
eligible to migrate will be left behind.

https://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.arcf000/s6068.htm?lang=en
VSAM datasets with 2+ AIXs must be migrated with a command to the base cluster 
name.

LDMF (Part of TDMF) can help move up datasets left on old volumes.


On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Jasi Grewal <[email protected]> wrote:
> Greetings, I would like to know, if we can use IBM z/OS TDMF to migrate z/VM 
> and zLinux DASD to newer model 3390-27's from 3390-09.
> The other problem is that we don't have that many targets as Source vols so 
> every MDISK would have to be migrated to consume DASD Space and does TDMF 
> supports the feature of copying MDISK's from Source to Targets or does it 
> only supports Full Volumes migration.
>
> Or do we use copyddr tool to copy mdisks from source to targets from z/VM 
> System.
> Any experiences or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Regards,
> Jasi Grewal.
>
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