[Default] On 7 Apr 2016 15:49:08 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
[email protected] (Farley, Peter x23353) wrote:

>It isn't just banks and financial institutions.  American automobile companies 
>(Ford, Chrysler, GM) among others.
>
>I interviewed back in the mid-1980's at several large entertainment companies 
>(Columbia Pictures and at least one TV-related organization) that used 
>mainframes for administrative accounting work back then.  Not sure if any of 
>them do today.
>
>US State governments and local governments for larger cities (e.g., NYC).
>
>Of course, those all qualify as OLD, as you said, not from the last 30 years.
>
>Someone with privileges to see the whole SHARE membership roster could 
>probably answer your question better than I can.
>
>IMHO part of what is vanishing mainframe clients is IBM's failure several 
>decades back to continue to support universities with discounted hardware and 
>software.  Lack of mainframe availability at university level has translated 
>into current managements with no exposure and no desire to learn the 
>advantages (TCO, security, etc.) of mainframes.  Not the whole reason, but a 
>significant contributor.

How much of what most universities want to teach would run on z/OS?
Linux on z?  Is Goldman Sachs still using IBM mainframes since they
have joined the trend of building their own computers?

Clark Morris 
>
>Peter
>
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>W dniu 2016-04-07 o 21:37, Mike Schwab pisze:
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/04/07/ibm_s_360_50_anniversary/
>>
>> 96 of the biggest 100 banks in the world still run IBM mainframes.
>Keywords: still, largest.
>"Stil" means defensive, marketshare loss.
>"Largest" means only the largest institutions really need mainframe.
>Questions: What about those remaining 4 biggest banks? What computers do they 
>use?
>Since those 4 bank in first 100 can live without mainframe, what about banks 
>from third or fourth hundred?
>
>Mainframe are usually used by big and OLD companies. "Old" is important here - 
>it's IT legacy, it's cost of migration, etc.
>What big and new (30 years old or less) companies use mainframe? Google? 
>Facebook? Netflix?
>
>> If there is job security in the world, that is it.
>Not for me. Raincode.

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