R.S. writes:
> W dniu 2016-05-25 o 18:19, Blake, Daniel J [CTR] pisze:
> >Just wondering if anyone has successfully logged into TSO using the HMC 
> >while being at a remote location?
> >
> >Let's say the Mainframe is in New York City and the HMC is sitting right 
> >next to it.  I'm sitting  on the beach in Miami, using the HMC's IP address 
> >I connect to it.  From there is there a way to log into TSO?
> Yes, and no.
> Rather NO.
> 
> Details:
> Important: HMC cannot connect to TSO *in any special way*. From TSO (VTAM,
> TCPIP) point of view it is just another PC in the network. So, if you launch
> some 3270 emulator and you have proper LAN connectivity then you can connect
> from HMC to a z/OS image, including TSO.
> In the old (pre-z9) days of good old OS/2 based HMC you had full-feature
> PCOMM 4.3 on your HMC. It can be used remotely, that means you had to
> connect to HMC using "remote desktop" and voila - started any application
> you wanted, including PCOMM.
> 
> However nowadays HMC is Linux-based and has poor x3270 which is still able
> to connect to z/OS image *but IT IS NOT ALLOWED TO USE REMOTELY". Why? I
> don't see any reason. IMHO it is one of the most unreasonable "features"  of
> HMC.
> 
> So, assuming you have z9, z10, z196, EC12, or z13, NO YOU CANNOT DO IT.
> 
> 
> Fine print: there are also 3270 and ASCII console icons. That cannot be used
> as regular 3270 terminal.

Current HMCs have the "Integrated 3270" task which provide a
3270 terminal emulator which is accessible via remote HMC access.
As you say, it's not a "regular" 3270 terminal because it connects
to z operating systems neither via TCP/IP (as would a typical
desktop 3270 emulator) nor as a local non-SNA 3270 device (as would
an OSA-ICC-provided session). Although z/OS 2.1 introduces support
for Integrated 3270, that's only as a console which doesn't get you
the TSO access requested by the OP.

However, z/VM supports the Integrated 3270 for a normal logon and,
although it's usually used as a console, for z/VM a console isn't
a special session and can be used for other activities...including
making an outgoing telnet (i.e. tn3270) connection. That connection
uses the usual z/VM networking (TCP/IP stack or, I suppose, SNA for
those that still have z/VM hooked up to SNA) and can make a
connection to the z/OS system of your choice on the network.
(You could of course also DIAL to a z/OS instance running as a
virtual machine under that z/VM - which is what I do - but it would
also be fine to make that outgoing telnet to z/OS images running
elsewhere.)

So those who have a z/VM LPAR handy could indeed use remote access
to the HMC to logon to a z/OS system if they particularly wanted.

(For those that don't have z/VM, you could also bring up Linux in
an LPAR and then use the Integrated ASCII terminal to login to that
and use c3270 - the "curses" version of the x3270 3270 emulation
suite - to make an outgoing connection to z/OS. But c3270 is rather
unpleasant to use so that really would be just for emergencies.)

--Malcolm

-- 
Malcolm Beattie
Linux and System z Technical Consultant, zChampion
IBM UK Systems and Technology Group

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