Is your LE configured to allow run-time overrides?

If it is, and your overrides were honored by LE, then this is a good example of 
one of the aspects of LE that still causes me to shake my head. Given that one 
of the "fundamentals" of our industry is the repeatability of a symptom (i.e., 
if a jobs fails with a S0C7, and nothing changes (including the data), it 
should always abend with a S0C7, on either your system or mine), I am taken 
back sometimes at how easily LE will give different results - with seemingly 
the same environment.

We have a seemingly very simply COBOL program. One would expect consistent 
results. Yet, we have seen multiple results - from what would on the surface 
seem to be fairly similar environments.

Bill Hitefield
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Of Frank Swarbrick
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:01 PM
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Subject: Re: Error in a simple COBOL program

For what its worth, I just ran it (in batch) with TRAP(OFF,NOSPIE) and I still 
don't get a S0C1 (or any different result at all, that I can see).

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It is quite possible the OP is running with different LE options.

For example, the TRAP option controls some aspects of LE error trapping. (There 
are others that govern things like SPIE processing).

If LE does not "trap" the abend, and z/OS is allowed to process it, you will 
probably see some sort of S0Cx abend (depending upon the version of the 
compiler and LE run-time libraries).
If LE does "trap" the abend, you will see some sort of user abend (generated by 
LE).

A U4038 abend is typically I/O related. Unfortunately, it is an extremely 
generic abend code. The extra messages supplied by Frank show how necessary 
they are with LE.

I am going to guess that his LE options are such that LE is asked to trap 
"exceptional conditions" (LE's terms) and funnel them through its processing, 
with the result usually being (1) LE messages, (2) an LE "SNAP mini-dump", and 
(3) a user abend of some sort (typically in the U4xxx series).

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Of Frank Swarbrick
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 11:50 AM
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Subject: Re: Error in a simple COBOL program

For my TSO test I did a DDLIST and freed the SYSIN allocation.  Once that was 
done I executed my program: TSO CALL 'DVFJS.APPLIB.LOAD(ACC)'.  The following 
are the results:


IEC130I SYSIN    DD STATEMENT MISSING
IGZ0017S The open of DISPLAY or ACCEPT file with environment name SYSIN was 
unsuccessful.
         From compile unit ACC at entry point ACC at statement 7 at compile 
unit offset +000002A6 at entry offset +000002A6 at
         address 0E9082A6.
User abend 4,038 dec occurred processing command 'CALL    '.
ISPD210  CMD abended - 'CALL' terminated abnormally.


So... Same results as in batch.  No S0C1.


Frank

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Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 9:38 AM
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Subject: Re: Error in a simple COBOL program

I can't see to find the original post that started all of this.  Can someone 
find it and quote it here?

The reason I ask is I swear that the original issue was a compile time issue, 
not a run-time issue.

Or perhaps I'm mixing up two different conversations.


FWIW, I'm going to see what happens if I run my example in TSO.

Frank

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Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 6:55 PM
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Subject: Re: Error in a simple COBOL program

On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 18:08:46 -0500, Bill Woodger <bill.wood...@gmail.com> wrote:

> "IGZ0017S The open of DISPLAY or ACCEPT file with environment name SYSIN was 
> unsuccessful."

That message is indeed specific, but it does not exactly scream out "... expect 
operation exception to follow this message."

> Program outside of TSO then gets an LE User Abend (U4038). No S0C1.

Cameron, the person with the original problem, got the S0C1 when running the 
program under TSO.

Frank, who was kind enough to recreate the situation, did not get the S0C1 but 
was running it as a batch job.

As far as I can see, and this is perhaps where I missed something, Cameron did 
not try the program in batch, and nor did Frank try it under TSO.

Myself, I would not spend much time on it, but I wouldn't just ignore it 
either. But, enough said.

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