On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 15:16:17 -0500, Paul Gilmartin <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 12:21:26 -0500, Tom Marchant <[email protected]> >wrote: >>>> >>>Is this true even if RRRRRRR is an APAR ID rather than a SYSMOD ID? (I >>>understand >>>that's IBM's practice though not ours -- I recurrently need to submit RCFs.) >> >>What do you mean? An APAR is a SYSMOD. Do you mean, "What if an APAR fix >>(++APAR) was created with a SYSMOD ID of RRRRRRR?" >> >No. My understanding is that IBM's practice is (was?) that the reason ID >is the ID of an APAR which may be resolved by one or more PTFs which >SUPersede the reason ID which is not itself a delivered SYSMOD. This >is hinted at by: > z/OS > z/OS 2.1.0 > SMP/E Version 3 > SMP/E for z/OS Commands > The ACCEPT command > Processing > SYSMOD selection > Applicability checking > Exception SYSMODs (HOLD) > >Exception data is considered resolved when one or more of the following are >true: > HOLDERROR and HOLDFIXCAT exception data is considered resolved if any of > the following conditions apply: > o The SYSMOD named as the reason ID for the exception is already > applied or > is superseded by a SYSMOD that is already applied. > o The SYSMOD named as the reason ID for the exception is being applied > concurrently or > is being superseded by a SYSMOD being applied concurrently. > o The applicable BYPASS operand is specified. > >Yes, this suggests that the reason ID is always a SYSMOD ID, but I believe >that isn't (or recently wasn't) the case. Note the two mentions of >"superseded". The reason ID on the ++HOLD ERROR is an APAR number. The SUP operand on the ++VER is a SYSMOD ID. IBM sometimes (often?) creates an APAR fix for the problem. That APAR fix would allow the error PTF to be applied, as the manual you have quoted above describes. Most customers never see the APAR fix though. However, the PTF that is created supersedes the APAR. This allows the error PTF to be applied. I believe that there is some confusion because APAR has more than one meaning. There are four kinds of SYSMOD. They are FUNCTION, PTF, APAR, and USERMOD. All of this is quite old. I still don't understand what you meant by the question you asked above, >>>Is this true even if RRRRRRR is an APAR ID rather than a SYSMOD ID? If it is still an open question for you, can you clarify it? -- Tom Marchant ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
