On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 23:28:27 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote:
>
>IIRC, IBM's convention is for the APAR number, such as you might look up using 
>the 
>SIS function of IBMLINK starts with an "O" (for MVS APARs) and the reason-ID 
>used 
>in a ++HOLD starts with an "A". Program products use different letters.
>
>Ok, let me try again. The documentation for ++HOLD and ++RELEASE make no 
>mention of SYSMOD ID. However, in order for a PTF to resolve the Error Hold, 
>it 
>
Ah! I had been unaware that the (first) APAR fix matches the reason
ID.  You view this as modal operation; I had not known that it ever
occurred.  So, often the reason ID is a sysmod ID; in other cases
(when there is no APAR fix) the reason ID is not a sysmod ID.  And,
further, I had believed, very incorrectly, that the reason ID matches
the  apar ID ("Oxnnnnn")

>has to SUP the REASON ID. IIRC, the SUP operand of ++VER makes no mention 
>of REASON ID, but only says that SUP lists the SYSMOD that is superseded. 
>Perhaps some clarification in the manual about this would be appropriate.
> 
Yes, because the passage I cited referred to the reason ID as a sysmod ID,
as if that were always the case.

>When an APAR fix is created for the APAR problem description, it starts with 
>"A". If a 
>second APAR fix is created, perhaps for another release, it starts with "B". A 
>third 
>APAR fix would start with "C", and so on. I don't have one to look at, but I'm 
>pretty 
>sure that the "B", "C", etc APAR fixes sup the "A" REASON ID. I suspect, but 
>am not 
>certain, that this is true for all APARs, not just those for which there is an 
>Error Hold. 
>
"C" must SUPersede "A" and "B"; and the final PTF must SUPersede "A", "B", "C", 
...
else a MODID check is almost inevitable.  (Well, PRE would work, but you don't
want to PRE APAR fixes.)

>The "A" APAR fix does not SUP the REASON ID because that would mean that the 
>APAR fix superseded itself, ...
> 
I believe I said that.

Thanks,
gil

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