NTAC:3NS-20

Our people are also working with the vendor (same vendor) to get
Reflections working so that logon's can occur automatically. For now
have a workaround and can log in using Reflections manually.
What will really complicate matters is that all of the systems
programmers have multiple logonids to log on to multiple systems
simultaneously. Management is not going to like the additional
troubleshooting time that will be incurred if we have to go check out an
ID for each system we want to log on to.


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 9:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mainframe systems programmer ID 'vaulting'


Once we have CyberArk being a useful tool, all daily work will be done
with TN3270 under CyberArk.  That will not happen for a while but it is
coming.  Welcome to how the FED is going to work and you MUST have a
CAC/PIV to even get through the firewalls


Steve Beaver


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-----Original Message-----
From: "James Peddycord" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 10:03am
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Subject: Re: Mainframe systems programmer ID 'vaulting'



NTAC:3NS-20

We have a FIRECALL process now, but it's automated.
The vaulting process has taken the place of this FIRECALL process for
most applications teams. The systems programmers don't need to get a
FIRECALL ID to update SYS1 datasets. We only need them when working with
datasets that we don't ordinarily have access to, such as the datasets
that come in a service pack that have HLQs that we don't have dataset
rules for.
We are currently vaulting a pool of logonids with god-like power for
systems programmers to check out. When this is complete we will retire
our old FIRECALL process.
It's the next step, where our daily use TSO IDs may be vaulted, that
scares us.

Jim


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Lester, Bob
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 4:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mainframe systems programmer ID 'vaulting'


For a while, about 15 years ago, we had "firecall" IDs. When you logged
in, it prompted you for information that, in turn, updated RACF with
Name, expiration, etc. These IDs were kept in paper form, in the Data
Center Manager's office.

Of course, you had to jump thru the flaming hoops of Change Management
first!

BobL

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Charles Mills
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 2:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mainframe systems programmer ID 'vaulting' [ EXTERNAL ]

Isn't this a violation of PCI DSS? "10.1 Implement audit trails to link
all access to system components to each individual user."

Charles

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Bigendian Smalls
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 7:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mainframe systems programmer ID 'vaulting'

This is something I hadn't heard much about, but a couple questions come
to mind - for anyone who has thought about or implemented this:

1) If you have a pool of IDs, then are you losing granularity with which
you might want to assign privelages? Meaning you now have to have IDs
that have exactly the same permissions - if they are user-agnostic
(among some class of users obviously, like DEVs or SYSPROGs or whatever)
- Seems like that is back to the old, "Create a new id. What perms to
give him? Dunno, just build it like Chad's, they have the same job."
Which has kind of gone out of style for obvious reasons (though still
prevelant in practice).

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