So long as the only team making these changes is controlled (Stg Admin team in 
a RACF Group).  Then there is a reduction of who can make these types of 
changes.  Therefor the liability will be reduced.

>From my perspective, there is little that can be done to reliably ensure 
>managers that what is going in will do no harm.  

We have a test CDS that we use when are working on ACS code.  But then when it 
goes live, we rely on each other to have notified the group of what other 
changes might be there.

You might look at the produce SMS/DEBUG by dtssoftware.com . Or the Suite of 
DTS Software for SMS.  You can take some of the functions in ISMF and put it in 
this tool where it is easier to control.

Lizette



> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 1:57 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: SCDS/ACDS Compare Tool
> 
> I hear ya, been thru IITEL (sp) change management methodology at 3 jobs, just
> starting here now.
> maybe you can setup an ACS test routine and test both active and test with the
> SCDS and provide the output from the test?
> Carmen
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: "Chuck Kreiter" <kreiter_ibm-m...@twc.com>
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 2:49:25 PM
> Subject: Re: SCDS/ACDS Compare Tool
> 
> Paranoia is driving this more than anything. Managers are being asked to sign-
> off on changes and that is driving the desire to know exactly what was
> changed. We provide screen shots of our changes or ACS code compares, but this
> doesn't prove something else wasn't changed in their minds. They want to see
> what is different between the current ACDS and the SCDS that is about the
> activated.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 3:26 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: SCDS/ACDS Compare Tool
> 
> What specifically do they think they need with the ACDS/SCDS?
> 
> I can dynamically change lots of things in ISMF and unless I document it
> outside of the product, it will remain hidden.
> 
> Was there an event where an old version of the SCDS was activated? Were ACS
> code regressed or not tested prior to implementing? Were volumes moved out of
> or into the wrong SMS Storage Group?
> 
> What is the incentive to do this?
> 
> Change ACS Constructs
> Translate
> Validate
> Activate
> 
> Is there something in this process they need more robust or bullet-proof?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Lizette
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> > On Behalf Of Chuck Kreiter
> > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 11:19 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: SCDS/ACDS Compare Tool
> >
> > Management at my company wants to see a delta compare of the ACDS and
> > the "to be activated" SCDS so that they can see what is going to be
> > implemented with a given change. I've asked IBM and they were not
> > aware
> of anything.
> > I've looked at Naviquest and it can do some but not everything. A
> > FileManger compare of the files doesn't produce anything useful.
> > Anyone know of such a tool or process to produce such a compare?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> 
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