Hi, Toronto and right in the immediate west part of the city, High Park area if you know Toronto, where I have a 20 minute walk to and from the office no matter the weather.
Cheers, John T. Abell Tel: 800-295-7608 Option 4 President International: 1-416-593-5578 Option 4 E-mail: john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com Fax: 800-295-7609 International: 1-416-593-5579 International Software Products www.ispinfo.com This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, retention, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive on behalf of the named recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Also,email is susceptible to data corruption, interception, tampering, unauthorized amendment and viruses. We only send and receive emails on the basis that we are not liable for any such corruption, interception, tampering, amendment or viruses or any consequence thereof. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of scott Ford Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 4:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: curious: why S/360 & decendants are "big endian". John, No problemo, I live in PA about an hour from Philly. What part of Canada are you in? Scott On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 3:34 PM John Abell < john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com> wrote: > Hi, > > > > Thanks for the plug for Canada. Where are you located? > > > > Cheers, > > John T. Abell > > Tel: 800-295-7608 Option 4 > > President > > International: 1-416-593-5578 Option 4 > > E-mail: john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com > > Fax: 800-295-7609 > > > > International: 1-416-593-5579 > > > > > > International Software Products > > www.ispinfo.com > > > > This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the > sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, retention, > distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you > are not the intended > > recipient (or authorized to receive on behalf of the named recipient), > please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this > message. Also,email is susceptible to data corruption, interception, > > tampering, unauthorized amendment and viruses. We only send and > receive emails on the basis that we are not liable for any such > corruption, interception, tampering, amendment or viruses or any consequence > thereof. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of scott Ford > > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 10:52 AM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: curious: why S/360 & decendants are "big endian". > > > > John, > > > > My career is similar , unit record equip then 360/40 DOS/VS/POWER, the > > 360/40 had MFCM and I learned Assembler on a 360/20, of course I > wasn't in your wonderful country, I always liked Canada. > > > > Scott > > > > On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 7:23 AM John Abell < > john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com> wrote: > > > > > I started at IBM in Toronto in August 1964. 1401's, a 1440, a 1460, > > a > > > 7044, an 1130 and all the unit record equipment you could want > > except > > > 403s and 407s, We also had Tape-to-Tape data flow over a phone line > > > in the evenings between Montreal and Toronto and Vancouver and > > Toronto > > > using 200BPI horizontal vacuum column tape drives. Soon thereafter, > > we > > > had a > > > 360/20 with an MFCM. I will leave the multiple interpretations of > > > MFCM to those from that era. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone else out there remember learning and using Autocoder and FARGO? > > > I will forego panel wiring for the time being as this was an > > > interesting programming method learned first. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > John T. Abell > > > > > > Tel: 800-295-7608 Option 4 > > > > > > President > > > > > > International: 1-416-593-5578 Option 4 > > > > > > E-mail: john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com > > > > > > Fax: 800-295-7609 > > > > > > > > > > > > International: 1-416-593-5579 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > International Software Products > > > > > > www.ispinfo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the > > > sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, retention, > > > distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you > > > are not the intended > > > > > > recipient (or authorized to receive on behalf of the named > > recipient), > > > please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of > > this > > > message. Also,email is susceptible to data corruption, interception, > > > > > > tampering, unauthorized amendment and viruses. We only send and > > > receive emails on the basis that we are not liable for any such > > > corruption, interception, tampering, amendment or viruses or any > consequence thereof. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > > > On Behalf Of Mike Myers > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 8:08 PM > > > > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > > > > Subject: Re: curious: why S/360 & decendants are "big endian". > > > > > > > > > > > > Warren: > > > > > > > > > > > > My God, you've been around even longer than me. I only joined IBM on Nov. > > > 9, 1964 and started programming school the day before OS/360 went GA. > > > How many other old f***s (friends) have we out here on this forum? > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike Myers > > > > > > Mentor Services Corporation > > > > > > (919) 341-5210 > > > > > > > > > > > > On 03/09/2017 07:39 PM, Warren Brown wrote: > > > > > > > I thought it was me . .joined IBM the same day as the 360 was > > > > > > > announced > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > On Thu, 3/9/17, Anne & Lynn Wheeler <l...@garlic.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: curious: why S/360 & decendants are "big endian". > > > > > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, March 9, 2017, 7:26 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > john.archie.mck...@gmail.com > > > > > > > (John McKown) writes: > > > > > > > > ​Same in other > > > > > > > books I've seen. Why? Probably because we write from top > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > bottom. We write the lowest first, > > > > > > > at the top, and the highest last, at the > > > > > > > > bottom. And then we confuse everybody by > > > > > > > calling them "ascending" memory > > > > > > > > addresses while writing them in a > > > > > > > descending pattern. English is a _stupid_ > > > > > > > > language. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the 70s as fullscreen 3270s editors were > > > > > > > starting to appear, there > > > > > > > was big editor > > > > > > > culture wars over up & down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prior to that, line-editing was from > > > > > > > perspective of the user ... "up" > > > > > > > moving towards the "top" (beginning) > > > > > > > of the file and "down" was moving > > > > > > > towards the "bottom" (end) of the > > > > > > > file. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The side that had > > > > > > > enhanced previous line editors to support 3270 > > > > > > > fullscreen and preserved the up/down > > > > > > > orientation (meaning). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A > > > > > > > couple of "new" 3270 fullscreen editors, done from > > > > > > > scratch, insisted > > > > > > > on "up" was from > > > > > > > the orientation of the program (not the user), the > > > > > > > program would move the file up ... towards the > > > > > > > bottom of the file or > > > > > > > move the file > > > > > > > "down" ... towards the top of the file (difference > > > > > > > was` > > > > > > > whether up/down was from the human > > > > > > > perspective or the program/software > > > > > > > perspective). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > virtualization experience > > > > > > > starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > -- > > > > -- > > > > > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive > > > > > > > access instructions, > > > > > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu > > > > > > > with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > -- > > > > -- > > > > > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send > > > > > > > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > > > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > > > > > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > > IBM-MAIN > > > > > > -- > > Scott Ford > > IDMWORKS > > z/OS Development > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- Scott Ford IDMWORKS z/OS Development ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
