[email protected] (Timothy Sipples) writes:
> 4. I don't think anybody mentioned VM/IX and IX/370 yet, from
> Interactive Systems Corporation (ISC). Those were different than
> AIX/370 and AIX/ESA, based on Locus Computing's work. Bell Labs had a
> UNIX operating system for System/370 even before ISC's products, but I
> don't know much about that.  MVS OpenEdition was the successor to
> these efforts, although with yet another, different, much better
> technology base. MVS OpenEdition begat z/OS UNIX System Services.

IBM Palo Alto was also working on VM/370 for USC (Berkeley) BSD unix
... lots of unix functions directly supported by vm/370 operating system
... sort of similar to the AT&T unix being done for TSS/370 SSUP (things
like unix fork, creating multiple address spaces would be done by
vm/370).  However before its ships ... the palo alto group got
redirected to port BSD to PC/RT as AOS (as alternative to AIXV2 ... an
AT&T Unix port also done by interactive, interactive had also done PC/IX
for IBM/PC). IBM Palo Alto also does work with UCLA Locus turning out
AIX/370 & AIX/PS2

I had internal adtech conference spring 82, week before spring SHARE
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/96.html#4a John Hartmann's Birthday Party
other refs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#22 CP spooling & programming technology
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#46 Mythical computers and magazine 
reviews

that had presentations on several of the items. Part of the issue was
during the Future System period, 370 efforts were being shutdown (lack
of 370 credited with giving clone processor makers, market foothold).
When FS imploded, then there was mad rush to get stuff back in product
pipelines. Normal development is 1-2yrs out, and adtech is 3-5yrs out
(and research 5+yrs out). There was one last internal adtech conference
where we presented 16-way SMP and the 801 group presented 801/risc
... and then many of the adtech groups were thrown into the development
breach to churn out 370 products. The next adtech conference was spring
82.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#801

I've periodically pontificated on senior disk engineer getting talk at
late 80s internal, worldwide, annual communication group confereince
supposedly on 3174 performance but opened talk with comment that
communication group was going to be responsible for demise of disk
division.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#terminal

The disk division came up with number of products to try and address
distributed computing but were constantly being vetoed by the
communication group (that "owned" corporate strategic responsibility for
everything that crossed the datacenter wall). As a work around, the disk
division VP then started providing startup funding for non-IBM
operations that would use IBM disks in distributed computing
environments. He also funded MVS OpenEdition ... and the VP would
periodically ask us to go by some of these startups to lend a hand
and/or consult on MVS OpenEdition.

posts in this thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#75 Mainframe operating systems?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#76 Mainframe operating systems?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#78 Mainframe operating systems?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#79 Mainframe operating systems?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#80 Mainframe operating systems?

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