> On Sep 7, 2017, at 5:24 AM, David Crayford <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 7/09/2017 9:15 AM, Edward Gould wrote: >>> I think that we've finally got past that hang-up. PDSE is ready for prime >>> time. >> The PDSe outage brought the company to its knees. They do NOT want to see >> the same thing happening again. All the higher up operating officers got >> their hands slapped and not nicely either. They lost their bonuses and lost >> vacation time and a few other things that I am not sure of so I won’t >> speculate. > > I'm glad I don't work for a company who punish people for problems they we're > not responsible for. If a PDSE problem really did bring your company to it's > knees then your company probably needs to review it's procedures. I was not around for that catastrophe so I can’t comment on procedures etc etc etc. What I can say is that they (upper management) were in some session with IBM (dog and pony show I think), IBM came out and pushed PDSe to them on how great it was and no problems (this is all hearsay). If I were there at the time I would have put a hold and go baby steps, I have been to SHARE and heard the horror stories (and lived them at another shop). They actually believed IBM. They got there hands slapped from believing IBM. Personally I still hate them. and dread doing any work with them. I activly resisted them and if an application programmer asks I tell them its too buggy and to stay away. I have lost some PDSe’s and I was lucky to have current backups. I have in the past just lost them. I was cursing at IBM. Even with VSAM I never lost the vsam file in the 20+ years before it became ubiquitous. I somehow was lucky, but I was seemingly always putting on the mega PTF tapes that Every one hated, but the thing worked (we didn’t do anything exotic), The only time I cursed at VSAM was that we had an early solid state drum that had PLPA on it and evertime the thing dropped power it lost the PLPA and I had to quick reinitialize it and delete the old PLPA in the catalog and redefine it and update parmlib so we could IPL again, Each of those times was a 30 minute episode of terror for me as we were being really hit by every one because of all the outages. One group had 2000 people waiting for CICS to get up again.
We had to get rid of the solid state because of the pain, I actually liked it when it worked it worked great. > >> I know that there are some necessary PDSe’s but have hidden that fact from >> them. My boss told me never to tell anyone that we have some. >> I think is we ever had another outage for PDSe they would be out shopping >> for another vendor and I wouldn’t blame them. I would leave if they ever >> tried to bring in a replacement. >> They are extremely weary of JAVA as well, I expect then to get over it in >> time, but I am not going to push it. > > Java is a word not an acronym. They tried it early on and the amount of real storage it needed brought the system to its knees, and again I was not there or else I would have ask them to do it at an low point. Ed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
