Is the HLQ for the product libraries in a USERCAT or the MasterCAT

For example, I only have SYS1.datasets cataloged in the master cat that are 
needed to IPL the system. All of my other products are in a user cat.

For example a product from Computer Associates - CA - called Vantage has an HLQ 
of VANT

I point that with a DEF ALIAS (NAME('VANT') RELATE('UCAT.CA.PRODUCTS')

So on a new system I can create an alias pointing to a similar UCAT and then 
DFDSS Dump/Restore with CATALOG, and it is all cataloged


Lizette


> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of johnnydeep san
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 7:27 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: How to use master catalog as user catalog in another system
> 
> Thanks,  Tom and Lizette  for your quick response .
> 
> Lizette, I'm trying this in sanbox where i will  going to run my product
> which was installed already in SYSA , i would like to use all the product
> dataset's  in SYSB for testing .I alredy transferred VOLUME(contain all
> product dataset)  to sysB  . though i  have volume i'm not able to fetch the
> dataset  since they are not cataloged. So i  thought of going alternate
> master catalog .
> 
> 
> + JD +
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Lizette Koehler <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> > What problem are you trying to solve?
> >
> > Creating an alt master cat and importing it to a new system may only
> > fix some of your issues.
> >
> > Consider the master catalog like the ROOT in Unix.  It controls where
> > things can be found in z/OS.  It is the key to the IPL Process.  If
> > anything is not correct in the MCAT then an IPL may not work.
> >
> >
> > There is a manual on working with catalogs.  And if this is not a
> > sandbox
> > - that is - if this system cannot take outages if there are issues you
> > should take care there could be challenges by doing this.
> >
> > It helps if you have a system programmer sandbox when working with
> > catalogs.  This is an environment where if things get broken, there is
> > not impact to other work going on in the shop.
> >
> >
> > If there are issues with your catalog, you may need to IPL or other
> > activities to fix it.  For example - catalog recovery processes
> >
> > If you are not the system programmer, you should contact the one at
> > your shop.  They can help you with your activities and reduce
> > potential problems.  This list does not know your shop or your
> > configuration.  It can only provide guidance based on information
> > provided.  You system programmer can be better at helping you with these
> types of questions.
> >
> > When you import the master cat from another system, you cannot not see
> > all of the datasets.  Anything currently cataloged on the new system
> > in the MasterCat may not be seen.
> >
> > If you want datasets that are in the MCAT on SYSA on SYSB and you want
> > are
> > SYS1.** datasets, then you may not see them on SYSB.
> >
> > A catalog is a tree structure.  MCAT entries over ride UCAT (user
> > catalog) entries.
> >
> > IMPORT CONNECT does -
> >
> > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.
> > 0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.idai200/toc.htm
> >
> > The IMPORT command moves or restores a cluster or alternate index, or
> > restores a catalog. Import a Catalog: Example 2
> >
> > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.
> > 0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.idai200/imicf.htm
> >
> > In this example, a catalog, USERCAT4, that was previously exported, is
> > imported. (See the EXPORT example, Export a Catalog: Example 1.) The
> > original copy of USERCAT4 is replaced with the imported copy, from the
> > portable file copy in CATBACK. Access method services finds and
> > deletes the duplicate name, USERCAT4. Any aliases in the master
> > catalog for USERCAT4 are preserved. (A duplicate name exists because
> > the catalog was exported with the TEMPORARY attribute.) Access method
> > services then redefines USERCAT4, using the catalog information from the
> portable file, CATBACK.
> > USERCAT4 is locked to prevent access to anyone except authorized
> > recovery personnel.
> >
> > Another search for CONNECT MASTER CATALOG in www.ibm.com  produces
> > many hits
> >
> > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.
> > 0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.e0zb100/migrtas.htm
> >
> > Migrating to another system section in z/OS Planning manual.  This
> > section only lists actions you need to take to move a copy of software
> > from one system to another. It does not list the actions needed to
> > install and migrate new levels of software. For that information, see
> > other documentation such as z/OS Migration.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I went to www.ibm.com and searched on CATALOG MASTERCAT
> >
> > http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?crawler=1&uid=isg3T1019473
> >
> > http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1II13354
> >
> > And many other hits.
> >
> > I went to
> > http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks.nsf/searchsite?SearchView
> >
> > And searched on CATALOG in the REDBOOK site on IBM.
> >
> > Many hits that will be helpful
> >
> > http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg248262.html?Open
> >
> > http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/redp4212.html?Open
> >
> > http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246983.html?Open     **  There
> > are a series of Redbooks called ABC and ABCs and they explain a lot of
> > the functions in z/OS and how to work with them
> >
> > http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246105.html?Open
> >
> >
> >
> > There are many more.
> >
> > Lizette
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of johnnydeep san
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 5:16 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: How to use master catalog as user catalog in another system
> > >
> > > Hi Team,
> > >
> > > As a newbie for mainframe, i may ask simple question but i couldn't
> > > track right answer in google :) .
> > >
> > >
> > > I have create alternate master catalog on volume ALTVOL1 on SYSA.
> > > Please guide me , how  to use this alternate master catalog of SYSA
> > > as a
> > usercatalog
> > > in another system SYSB? . since  both are different system , Will
> > > import catalog works ?.
> > >
> > >
> > > + JD +
> > >
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