Does a video of a 3850 in operation exist ?

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote:

> Well, the 2302 is based on the 1301 and 1302, which were common on the
> 7000 series, but the only disks I've seen on 360s were 2305, 2311, 2314 ,
> 3330 and 3350. As I recall, 3330-11 and 3350 required a PRPQ.
>
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> Subject: Re: Can anyone remember "drum" storage?
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> [email protected] (Joel C. Ewing) writes:
> > Clearly from the picture the Seagate really is like the 3380/3390
> > solution.  Two completely independent actuators giving the appearance of
> > two drives in one unit with a shared drive shaft and motor.  The
> > doubling of throughput is ONLY because you have two drives that can be
> > accessing or preparing to access totally independent data at the same
> > time, not because of any faster access to a block of data or multiple
> > blocks of data on a single track of one of those devices.  Dang!  My
> > interpretation would have been a much more intriguing device.
>
> recent ref
> http://secure-web.cisco.com/1HwgxuCIVudwA-wXpve3Bf7rAOfMm6tHpHwbL3BNWr4T
> xvKNnrnO0ZoWkiLG9ZqrqYSZlvXwX0rVEtRgCY5WUJlCWZXraQYaejh8i5e1Bzp0K-
> yiwwuywQWkxwJX9hITxC2GQ6U_jSX_aPFCH4kNSqvsQQc8HsZRqwZN95S0wd
> JOzyTM3QVyno8lUe4KP1TCgC0s8fhL1y8v32MF1pk7IHVO3dte3vchywpa9i
> kUuhnx7r--98fsX2nSjSOSzm1_tsc2DdtLvSZ1zBekHchsQ2Eyszfn9o
> 4P4o4bM4oDDfVofL4NyS_SCdKn2__p7m0nAiag4tSF_OAcccT1T5wmI8cIA1Gok1aJNCWHXQI
> jL7qFjutWgc_i89ZOwrLLQc5G9jufrLtoLlP524PfmqkEzlHQsNsfLW9qz21TNli1nGN6zmQ
> iDEvq9H7Y4gCwhHyqO/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.garlic.com%2F%7Elynn%2F2017k.html#22
> little old mainframes, Re: Was it ever worth it?
> http://secure-web.cisco.com/1HwgxuCIVudwA-wXpve3Bf7rAOfMm6tHpHwbL3BNWr4T
> xvKNnrnO0ZoWkiLG9ZqrqYSZlvXwX0rVEtRgCY5WUJlCWZXraQYaejh8i5e1Bzp0K-
> yiwwuywQWkxwJX9hITxC2GQ6U_jSX_aPFCH4kNSqvsQQc8HsZRqwZN95S0wd
> JOzyTM3QVyno8lUe4KP1TCgC0s8fhL1y8v32MF1pk7IHVO3dte3vchywpa9i
> kUuhnx7r--98fsX2nSjSOSzm1_tsc2DdtLvSZ1zBekHchsQ2Eyszfn9o
> 4P4o4bM4oDDfVofL4NyS_SCdKn2__p7m0nAiag4tSF_OAcccT1T5wmI8cIA1Gok1aJNCWHXQI
> jL7qFjutWgc_i89ZOwrLLQc5G9jufrLtoLlP524PfmqkEzlHQsNsfLW9qz21TNli1nGN6zmQ
> iDEvq9H7Y4gCwhHyqO/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.garlic.com%2F%7Elynn%2F2017k.html#44
> Can anyone remember "drum" storage?
>
> or ibm 2302
> IBM System/360 Component Descriptions- 2841 and Associated DASD
> <a href="http://www.bitsavers.com/pdf/ibm/28xx/2841/GA26-
> 5988-7_2841_DASD_Component_Descr_Dec69.pdf
>
> 2302 (never heard of any actually installed) pg59-63 (pg 59 picture
> looks a little bit like the later 2305 fixed-head disk picture but not
> fixed-head per track). has two access mechanism, one for the inner 250
> tracks and one for the outer 250 tracks (figure 46, pg 60)
>
> note that 2301 (fixed-head track) drum transferred four heads in
> parallel for 1.2mbyte/sec transfer (compared to 2303 319kbyte/sec
> transfer) and the 2305m1 transfered to heads in parallel for 3mbyte/sec
> transfer compared to 1.5mbyte/sec 2305m2 (mod1 also had heads offset 180
> degrees on same track so it also cut avg. rotational delay in half ...
> but mod1 physically had the same number of heads, so only had have the
> tracks and half the capacity)
>
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