Innovation has a product called FDRPAS that can be rented that does the copies 
while the system is up and running. We have used it several times and it works 
great.

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 5:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Accessing 65536 devices

I think I out-clevered myself. x'FFFF' is the highest numbered device, but 
since x'0000' is also a valid device number, the total number is 65,536 UCBs. 
In any case, we need to go beyond that limit in a single LPAR. It's only 
temporary, but the alternative is drawn out and laborious. 

1. Identify some subset of the new subsystem that can be accommodated in the 
current IODF.
2. Activate a new IODF with that subset defined.
3. Copy old volumes to new within that range.
4. Activate a new IODF that deletes the old volumes already copied.
5. Rinse and repeat until the last of the old volumes have been copied.
6. Activate a new IODF that deletes the old subsystem entirely. 

We've been through this house of mirrors many times in the past. It takes 
months. I'm hoping for a linear approach that allows us to copy all volumes in 
a single exercise. 


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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 3:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: (External):Re: Accessing 65536 devices

Yes. 65,535 is the maximum number of devices that can be represented with four 
hex digits. If you add one more device, you need an extra hex digit. I 
understand that channel sets can allow for more than 64K UCBs in an IODF, but I 
thought that no single LPAR could address all of them at the same time. In 
order to copy old volumes to new, we have to have all of them online 
concurrently. 

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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW
[email protected]


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Nims,Alva John (Al)
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 3:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: (External):Re: Accessing 65536 devices

Ah, UCB's are HEX, so x'FFFF' = 65535, correct?

Al Nims
Systems Admin/Programmer 3
UFIT
University of Florida
(352) 273-1298

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 6:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Accessing 65536 devices

So this would involve 5-digit UCBs? We could probably manage that as long as 
all devices are concurrently accessible. Aren't commands like VARY limited to 
four digits?

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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW
[email protected]


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Jerry Whitteridge
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 3:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: (External):Fw: Accessing 65536 devices

 By using the CSSID/SS*  in the  IODF you can get way more than the  basic 
number

 Example from a z13

   CSS Devices in SS0    Devices in SS1    Devices in SS2    Devices
 in SS3
 / ID  Maximum + Actual  Maximum + Actual  Maximum + Actual  Maximum  + Actual
 _ 0   65280     12384   65535     0       65535     0       65535   0
 _ 1   65280     0       65535     0       65535     0       65535   0
 _ 2   65280     0       65535     0       65535     0       65535   0
 _ 3   65280     0       65535     0       65535     0       65535   0
 _ 4   65280     0       65535     0       65535     0       65535   0
 _ 5   65280     0       65535     0       65535     0       65535   0


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