Whoa now... Java is a lot of things, but it is definitely not a
simplification of C.  You might call it a simplified ("different"
might be better) C++, but that's a whole 'nother thing.

C has very concise syntax.... you'd best invest the time in learning
it step-by-step, because little of it is intuitively obvious.  But
it's not that hard, and it really won't take long if you know
assembler and/or some other language.

sas

On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:17 AM, Barkow, Eileen <[email protected]> wrote:
> C is a REALLY-REALLY hard language to learn (at least I am finding it to be 
> so).
> Actually, I am only trying to use C without really learning it which makes it 
> even more difficult.
>
> Java was created in order to be a simplification of C -
> But of course the problem with Java on z/os is that it runs under Unix which 
> scares off a lot of  Cobol and other application programmers  as well
>   as some Z/OS and RACF system programmers who do not want to be bothered 
> setting up Unix for use by application programmers.
> And Java incurs a lot more overhead, especially if  you don’t have a ZAP 
> processor (or is it ZIP?).
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of John McKown
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 8:56 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.
>
> This is being prompted by the recent thread about getting the name of the
> running job in C. These are just some random questions.
>
> First, is C becoming more popular on z/OS? What for? I.e. batch programs,
> UNIX commands, CICS transactions, Db2 applications, ... ?
>
> Given that C, in other *IX systems, is a "system implementation" language,
> I find it interesting that IBM has not tried to make z/OS C have some of
> the same emphasis. Or maybe that is what Metal C is for. What I'm getting
> at is that there are no "system level" function interfaces, such as for
> ENQ/DEQ or "Name/Token" pairs. Would such interfaces be of any general use?
>
> --
> I have a theory that it's impossible to prove anything, but I can't prove
> it.
>
> Maranatha! <><
> John McKown
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