The accessing of encrypted data is done from the restored system. The system 
I'm asking about, without the required maintenance restores volumes, which 
includes the ICSF databases, production catalogs,...Once everything is restored 
from the bootstrap environment, we IPL the restored production environment.

Mark Jacobs

Mike Schwab<mailto:mike.a.sch...@gmail.com>
January 31, 2018 at 6:55 PM
Since the restore is run without the PTF, it won't restore the
encryption key and you won't be able to access the file after IPLing
with the PTF.

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 5:34 PM, Mark Jacobs - Listserv
<mark.jac...@custserv.com><mailto:mark.jac...@custserv.com> wrote:
> That's all we're looking for. The system in question is used as our DR 
> bootstrap system that restores logically dumped volumes. There's no need to 
> access encrypted data on that system once restored.
>
> Mark Jacobs
>
> Mike Schwab<mailto:mike.a.sch...@gmail.com><mailto:mike.a.sch...@gmail.com>
> January 31, 2018 at 3:02 PM
> http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/zoslib/pdf/OA50569.pdf<http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/zoslib/pdf/OA50569.pdf><http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/zoslib/pdf/OA50569.pdf<http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/zoslib/pdf/OA50569.pdf>>
> Printed page 4:
> z/OS 2.2 with OA50569 can create encrypted datasets.
> z/OS 2.1 with OA50569 cannot create encrypted datasets, can read
> encrypted datasets from 2.2.
>
> So without OA50569, I would assume it would not recognized that it was
> encrypted. It would restore but you could not decrypt it.
>
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:46 PM, Mark Jacobs - Listserv
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>  wrote:
>> I'm not seeing any reason why not, but can a zOS 2.2 system without the
>> required maintenance (OA50569) restore logically dumped volumes using
>> ADRDSSU that contain datasets encrypted by a zOS 2.2 system that has the
>> maintenance applied? There will be no access to this encrypted data on
>> the restoring system other than the restore from tape.
>> --
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>> everything, Castellan, except power.
>> -- The Doctor, in David Agnew's _The Invasion of Time_*
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> I'm not seeing any reason why not, but can a zOS 2.2 system without the 
> required maintenance (OA50569) restore logically dumped volumes using ADRDSSU 
> that contain datasets encrypted by a zOS 2.2 system that has the maintenance 
> applied? There will be no access to this encrypted data on the restoring 
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That's all we're looking for. The system in question is used as our DR 
bootstrap system that restores logically dumped volumes. There's no need to 
access encrypted data on that system once restored.

Mark Jacobs


Mike Schwab<mailto:mike.a.sch...@gmail.com>
January 31, 2018 at 3:02 PM
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/zoslib/pdf/OA50569.pdf<http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/zoslib/pdf/OA50569.pdf>
Printed page 4:
z/OS 2.2 with OA50569 can create encrypted datasets.
z/OS 2.1 with OA50569 cannot create encrypted datasets, can read
encrypted datasets from 2.2.

So without OA50569, I would assume it would not recognized that it was
encrypted. It would restore but you could not decrypt it.

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:46 PM, Mark Jacobs - Listserv
<mark.jac...@custserv.com><mailto:mark.jac...@custserv.com> wrote:
> I'm not seeing any reason why not, but can a zOS 2.2 system without the
> required maintenance (OA50569) restore logically dumped volumes using
> ADRDSSU that contain datasets encrypted by a zOS 2.2 system that has the
> maintenance applied? There will be no access to this encrypted data on
> the restoring system other than the restore from tape.
> --
> *One grows tired of jelly babies, Castellan. One grows tired of almost
> everything, Castellan, except power.
> -- The Doctor, in David Agnew's _The Invasion of Time_*
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I'm not seeing any reason why not, but can a zOS 2.2 system without the 
required maintenance (OA50569) restore logically dumped volumes using ADRDSSU 
that contain datasets encrypted by a zOS 2.2 system that has the maintenance 
applied? There will be no access to this encrypted data on the restoring system 
other than the restore from tape.

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